On Jun 19, 5:59 pm, James Bennett <ubernost...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 6:49 PM, poop<alex.so...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > It is not, but it is not much of a web application framework if it
> > doesn't already have a rich set of tools to work with.
>
> It does. Of course, your issue seems to be not that Django lacks
> certain tools, but that it doesn't already provide every tool you
> personally need.
...
> So as a general rule, the question should not be "why doesn't Django
> have this already" -- it should be "can I help to implement it".
> Because, really, that's the only way the project moves forward.
>

I am not so impressed with Django's features, honestly.  Aside from
the auto-admin interface, the feature set does not seem any richer
than Perl's Catalyst.

I don't mean to sound ungrateful.  You are right about the correct
approach to move a project forward.  But it isn't particularly nice to
developers to make them learn and muck around in your middleware to
perform common tasks.


> > I could kill whoever told me Django was great, and forgot to mention
> > there's no row-level permissions...
>
> Judging from your other email about it, I'd suspect you're into the
> realm where no out-of-the-box system could be both simple enough to
> cover common cases and complex enough to handle every situation people
> would like to implement. Which, to me, is fine: sometimes it's just
> not possible to produce a "generic enough" system to cover every use
> case, which means some folks end up writing custom code. Fortunately,
> people who use Django are (at least in theory) programmers who can
> evaluate what's needed and get their work done.

Heh, I didn't realize Google ever posted my other message.  I will be
sure to check the responses to it.  Thanks for mentioning it.

I agree, it is true that no out-of-the-box system would "just work"
for me.  And I am not afraid to get my hands dirty with programming.
But a generic permissions system ought to be a solved problem by now.
A search function ought (and apparently is) a solved problem by now.

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