Sorry, a QuerySet eval question. Yeah, I'm dumb I know.

My view is creating a query set, XXX.objects.all(). Stale data is
being served up all the time. Read the docs about generic views, when
sets are evaluated, some old posts in this group. Tried ._clone(),
tried iteration, tried len(), nothing will give fresh data in my set.

If I do this in the django manage.py shell it's no problem at all.
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