I agree with Will on this one.  While it's not the site that makes the
software, it sure as heck determines how many people (and companies)
will take that first chance and use it.

psycopg2 might be the best thing since sliced bread.  I've always used
MS SQL and MySQL.  Recently, I've started learning Python and
Postgres.  After setting up Django and deciding to ditch MySQL and go
for Postgres, I too came to that rant of a page and wondered what the
heck was going on.  Then I finally drilled down and found the
download.

I work for Corporate America.  Love it or hate it, Corporate America
(CA) like big flashy sites with contacts, mission statements, blah
blah blah.  My bosses don't care about open source.  Most people don't
understand it.  Even if they did understand it, they don't care.  Only
SOME programmers care about open source.  (and I am one of them).

Bottom line is that Mr Senior Manager VP of Programming at CA pushes
pencils all day making sure CA is compliant in every way with support
contracts and lots of red tape.   Mr Sr Manager took a Cobol class
back in 1982 so that qualified him as an expert in software
development.  So he decides to audit all source code and libraries.
But wait, he comes across psycopg2 and sees some "amateur" site with
swear words and orders the minions to remove all "amateur" code.  "We
only deal with good software like DB2, Oracle or MS".

THAT is the opinion of 99.999% of CA.  And I don't mean the little two
man webshop in San Fran running a "revolutionary" site on how to
widgitize the mood swings of cats who have 2 million users using
LAMP.  I mean the companies that FEED most of us code drones.

That is what Will was trying to point out...I believe.

Now, having said all of that....I DO believe FOSS is a great movement
in the software world.  I AM using psycopg2 for my projects.  But the
company I work for (5000 employees) have never even heard of Python,
Django, Postgres and especially psycopg2.

Now, should the creators of psycopg2 worry about some super site?
Nah.  But if they put a "please help...we need a better site" title on
their front page they might get a lot more support.  Django's site is
beautiful.  That's not what matters...but it sure as hell helped me
stick around and learn more.

cbmeeks
http://codershangout.com     (the most BEAUTIFUL site in the world!!!
hahahaah)



On Jun 24, 10:07 am, Will <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm working on a project I'd like to use Django for, though my first
> hurdle will be convincing a team of highly qualified scientists,
> programmers and computer scientists that this is a good idea.
>
> Given we are most likely going to use PostgreSQL, This isn't
> particularly inspiring:http://www.initd.org/
>
> Why should we trust psycopg2 to be a high quality piece of software?
>
> Will
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