On 6/23/07, Kenneth Gonsalves <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On 22-Jun-07, at 5:41 AM, Noah Gift wrote: > > > > unique interactive web applications, etc. current plans include a > > > python-based CMS such as django on Linux. > > > > you could also inform them that django is not a CMS - if they are > > expecting one, they may be in for a disappointment. > > > > I think your being a bit misleading. Of course you can use django > > for a CMS. It certainly doesn't hurt that CMS was the problem > > domain being addressed while Django was being written either. Just > > take a look at 99% of the jobs on django-users. "Hi, I work for a > > newspaper.....". So yes it can be a CMS if you write the code for > > it, and it is probably one of the problems django does best. > > Saying django is not a CMS is kind of like Elvis saying he wasn't > > influenced by the Blues... :) > > Let us be clear - django is a web framework meant for developers -
I think anyone that thinks otherwise doesn't know how to read and doesn't know how to program or know what programming is. Your stating the obvious and for some reason there are many people on the django list that keep stating the obvious over and over and over again. Let me help you make your point. I wrote diskbot last year: http://code.google.com/p/diskbot/ This was done in Django and has absolutely nothing to do with CMS. It is a systems monitoring tool. I actually just wrote it for a presentation, but think it could be cool :) not a cms meant for end users. Yes, you can build a cms with django - > and you can build a whole lot of other things. For that matter, you > can built a cms with python-cgi also - but that doesnt make python- > cgi a cms. Why do you think people keep asking things like..." python-based CMS such as django on Linux" This idea that Django can become,i.e. build, a great CMS is coming from somewhere...maybe it is in fact true? And why is this a bad thing? Someone made a great analogy about how an oven can make a pie, but an oven is not a pie. Let me elaborate on that analogy. I worked in a couple pizza places in college so I know pizza quite well. Say you work in a pizza shop. You are really unsatisfied with the current oven you have. You get inspired to design and make your own oven and your specific problem domain is making a better pizza oven. So you talk to the owner of the pizza shop and convince him you can make the best pizza oven in the world and it will be 1000% times more efficient than your current pizza oven. So you and a couple other guys build this oven and in fact it is a great pizza oven. You then start cranking out tons of pizzas and your owner is super happy. So many people are happy with the great pizzas you are cranking out that you get the idea to share your design with the world. You start a club to share your ideas, give your pizza oven a fancy name like pjango and people from all over the world help you make the oven even better. In your pizza shop you often make not only pizza in your oven, but pastrami sandwiches, pies, bread...heck you even cooked a thanksgiving turkey in your pizza oven. After all a oven is just an oven...it just needs to be set for the proper temperature for the item your cooking. You are very proud that you can cook ANYTHING in your pizza oven. You notice a lot of people have heard of your fancy pizza oven and keep asking you about making pizzas. They say, "I want to make the best pizzas in the world and I want to use pjango for that". What do you say at that point? Listen, "This is an oven, that can bake pizzas, but it won't make the dough, create a special sauce or decide the ingredients for you. In addition, it doesn't just bake pizzas, it also bakes pies, and breads and pastrami sandwiches and even THANKSGIVING TURKEYS." So, now substitute pizza shop, for newspaper shop and pizza for a CMS/Newspaper Website. My point is no matter how good of Thanksgiving Turkeys you make, and despite that fact that your oven can cook ANYTHING, people are probably going to be most interested in making pizza's in your pizza oven! Noah I dont know enough about elvis to comment on your last > statement ;-) > > -- > > regards > kg > http://lawgon.livejournal.com > http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ > > > > > > -- http://www.blog.noahgift.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
