Malcolm Tredinnick wrote:
> Outlook has had rule-based sorting into other mailboxes for a 
> while, so I would have thought it was possible to use that. 

It does have that. And I tried that for a while, but found it to be
"out-of-sight, out-of-mind."  It's worse than just going to the group page
and searching when I need something.

How I work with other lists (that use subject headers) is I press Ctrl-F to
bring up a search box and type "[whatever" (let's assume "[du]" for this
list). That gives me a list of only those emails and when I open them I can
go to the previous or next email by clicking a button.  It is really the
only way I'd found to effectively manage participation in a list (and I've
tried lots of things.)

> I also thought it had a way to search for text that appeared 
> anywhere in the headers (so you can search for 
> django-users@googlegroups.com wherever it appears).

It does, but it takes many keystrokes and numerous clicks making it very
tiring to do over and over every day, hence rather than have to do that I
just give up on a list and unsubscribe, especially a high volume one.

> > Obviously there's a group of people that would like to see this. Is 
> > there any chance for a compromise?  I understand about "burning" 14 
> > characters, but what about four, i.e. [du]?
> 
> Cryptic prefixes don't seem very usable for the masses. I 
> realise it sounds harsh, but degrading the situation for a 
> lot of users just because of flaws in one particular email 
> client isn't particularly fair.

I don't be to be contrary or confrontational, but in what context is it
unusable?  I would think it would be confusing for a person the first time
they subscribed after which they'd learn what it means and go about their
business.  Heck, what about [django] then?  That's usable.

And I wouldn't be asking for something "just for me" if it wasn't standard
practice on most lists.

> If Outlook cannot do what you want and the current situation 
> is intolerable, you can switch your configuration (at the 
> Google groups page for this group) to daily digest mode (one 
> email per day). Or you can read and reply to the group 
> through the web interface.

<Sigh>  Digest isn't usable either and neither is reading or replying to the
web interface.  It's sad that you guys are so against what is standard
practice on almost every other list.  I'll probably just have to unsubscribe
and learn TurboGears instead.

BTW, as I'm new to this list, should I take this attitude as a
foreshadowing?

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