Hi Oliver --

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUD :)
Seriously, though... None of your colleagues' statements display any
actual investigation of their claims; they're all almost completely
wrong.

On 5/23/07, OliverMarchand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a) that's for websites, not serious applications

If you can explain the difference between a "website" and a "serious
application" I'll be impressed.  Django's used for external
applications by companies as large as AOL, the Washington Post and
Scripps; it's also used within corporate firewalls by Google, AMD, and
many others.

There's nothing in the tools that dictate how they're used; the level
of "seriousness" only comes from the skills of the developers.

> b) it will be slow, ORMs are always slow

WIthout benchmarks this is a meaningless claim. Yes, there's an
overhead, but I'd it's negligible compared to all the other things a
system under load needs to do. In practice, the bottleneck in a Django
site is the speed of the underlying database (and its IO systems).

Take the time you save not having to write and maintain messy SQL
queries and spend it tuning your database :)

> c) those HTML forms are too limiting

I'm not quite sure how to respond to that... This seems to be an
argument against web applications in general; Django in no way limits
your use of HTML, so if HTML is too limiting for you then stick to
desktop apps.

... but learn how to work around the limitations of HTML. Programmers
who can't develop web apps aren't going to be very employable in the
near future.

Good luck selling Django at your company; I hope my answers help.

Jacob

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