Apologies Amirouche for the late reply.

The documentation is good, but I like many apparently(based on tutorials
for other envs) prefer a hands on approach to a documentary approach. This
is the place where Django doesn't have much depth in its ecosystem. It has
no current books and no hands on tutorial other than GSWD which creates a
lot of lifting with installing ruby, vms, vagrant and so on just to start
with Django.

Flask is starting to get a few tutorials popping up in real python for web,
http://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/the-flask-mega-tutorial-part-i-hello-world,
and in the works the Picard flask kickstarter
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1223051718/practical-flask-book-project.

I put my money where my mouth is and sponsor these kickstarters as there is
such a shortage of good info.

As I would back you Amirouche if you started a Kickstarter to give Django a
good practical and hands on tutorial.

Cheers

Sayth






On Thu, Jul 4, 2013 at 1:05 AM, Amirouche Boubekki <
[email protected]> wrote:

>
>
>
> 2013/7/1 Sayth Renshaw <[email protected]>
>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, July 1, 2013, Tom Evans wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 11:37 AM, Sayth Renshaw <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>> > Is that good though?
>>> >
>>> > Barring 2 scoops there is no new material to recognise and guide users
>>> to
>>> > the new features of Django and to get beginner Django developers on
>>> board
>>> > quicker.
>>> >
>>> > It leads to bits of info for each python framework but nothing
>>> > comprehensive.
>>> >
>>> > Sayth
>>> >
>>>
>>> Virtualenv, pip etc are not features of Django, they are features of
>>> python. It is right that Django mentions them in places, it is doubly
>>> right that it does not attempt to duplicate the fine documentation
>>> that pip and virtualenv possess themselves.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Tom
>>>
>>>
>> Agreed good tutorials would show steps and then point to resources for
>> further reading,
>>
>> At this point though it appears there is a scarcity of good tutorials for
>> current Django.
>>
>
> pip+virtualenv[wrapper] is a pratice not something that will allow you to
> build a skyrocket as-is, you can live without it.
>
> The documentation is good, and overall ecosystem alive and active, what do
> you need more ? They are several CMS and admin apps, blog solutions etc...
> They are still improvements and stabilisation to be done on many (utility)
> apps... Everything I want to say is that outside the django tutorial, and
> anybooks you read, the best way to improve your skills it to [re]build
> something...
>
> Time to time, I think about writring a set of tutorial about a CMS or
> Social Network from scratch, but experience says that except the actual
> code, the remaining issues are solved and well documented outside this
> virtual project, so this would, I think, have little value.
>
>
>
>
> HTH,
>
> Amirouche
>
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