Once you get the configuration kinks worked out, using a script to copy a 
directory is brute force but easy.  You can always download XAMP  to get the 
apache/mysql stuff in windows.   Also it's hard to argue the cost of a discount 
service like Webfaction against the labor to "roll your own" but sometimes 
management can be difficult ;)  good luck.

Fred.

From: django-users@googlegroups.com [mailto:django-users@googlegroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Daniel Braun
Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 8:21 AM
To: django-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Deployment Conundrum

Thanks for your answer, I actually follow you on twitter so it's funny to get 
some "face time".

Anyway, what I mean by replicating Heroku is specifically the deployment 
workflow - not the scaling side of things.
I have personally already set up deployment on a physical linux box we have 
here in the office using fabric, git, nginx and gunicorn, so I have at least 
some idea on what I want to achieve.

I guess the main problem is getting fabric to work with Windows, which to my 
knowledge, isn't possible.
Does Windows have a remote access protocol similar to SSH, through which I can 
run deployment commands?

On Sunday, June 2, 2013 11:17:22 AM UTC+3, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:

On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Daniel Braun <dbra...@gmail.com<javascript:>> 
wrote:
Hello,
I'm working in a non-profit organization. It's a design archive and research 
institute based in Israel.
We're developing (me actually, the only developer) a Django website to replace 
our ASP/MS-Access horrible system.

To the point - the only server I am allocated by the IT department is a Windows 
2008 server.
I'm currently working with Heroku, and needless to say, deployment is a breeze.
(Would love to stay with it, except I don't have the budget to pay for 
heroku/s3)

I realize I can run apache as a server, or even IIS. But how do I go about 
replicating heroku's deployment process (with git)?

Well, it depends what you mean by replicating Heroku.

If you just mean "getting a website up and running", then all you need is a git 
checkout of your source code, a web server configuration that points at that 
checkout, and a Python environment that can be called from the web server. I 
can't provide much specific advice here, but mod_wsgi configuration should be 
mostly standard regardless of the operating system, and it's not *that* hard to 
get working. Google has plenty of hits for "Django deployment windows"; you 
should be able to cobble something together from those links.

Once you've got your configuration working, redeploying should just be a matter 
of refreshing your git checkout and restarting/reloading the web server. It 
might be worthwhile writing some scripts to automate the update procedure, but 
worse case, it should only be a couple of commands.

If you want all the nifty auto scaling stuff that Heroku does -- that's another 
issue entirely. *That* sort of functionality means you need to have a deep 
understanding of your hosting environment. I don't think there are going to be 
any simple solutions here.

Is it viable to install a Ubuntu server virtual machine on top of the Windows 
installation? Does anyone have experience with it?

Is it possible? Yes. Will it perform as well as a native web server running on 
the native platform? No. Will the different between native and VM matter? That 
depends.

Whether this is a viable approach really depends on how comfortable you are 
with Unix vs Windows, and how much traffic you're actually going to serve. If 
you're going to serve a *lot* of traffic, then you probably want to avoid 
virtualisation - every little bit of extra performance will help. However, if 
you're only serving a handful of pages to a small internal group, then the 
overhead doesn't really matter -- If you've only got three people visiting your 
site, you could probably run the site on a Commodore 64 and still have CPU 
cycles to spare :-)

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)


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