Now after some days, I have the feeling that we are not able to collect
enough data to really get useful stats.
Google tools or ServeyMonkey ok why not.

On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 15:08 -0300, George Silva wrote:

> This is interesting but I think the media for the poll is a little
> off.
> 
> 
> 
> Maybe we could use Google tools to collect data? Or SurveyMonkey?
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:09 PM, Raphael <developm...@develissimo.com>
> wrote:
> 
>         In the mean while it would be useful if you could provide more
>         data :-)
>         The more project data we get, the more significant the end
>         result will be.
>         This should be a task - no more than five minutes to you guys.
>         
>         so thanks to everyone who is contributing:
>         http://develissimo.com/forum/topic/107887/
>         
>         Kind regards,
>         Raphael
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         On Mon, 2012-05-07 at 17:50 +0200, Derek wrote:
>         
>         > 
>         > I may have missed some key apect of this discussion, but
>         > isn't djangosite a tool fo show-casing websites; not a
>         > financial-statistics-gathering website?  Is it not better to
>         > have one dedicated to this purpose; or perhaps extend
>         > http://www.djangojobs.org/ as this as least deals with
>         > employment-related issues?
>         > 
>         > 
>         > On 7 May 2012 17:19, Daniel Sokolowski
>         > <daniel.sokolow...@klinsight.com> wrote:
>         > 
>         >         That’ is a great idea! 
>         >           
>         >         Dear djangosite Team 
>         >           
>         >         Would you please consider gathering basic
>         >         costs/hours spent during submission that could be
>         >         used to generate world wide statics? Please see
>         >         below or see
>         >         https://groups.google.com/d/msg/django-users/-/mA8tMUzy8FUJ 
> for full discussion. 
>         >           
>         >         Thank you. 
>         >           
>         >         From: Caio Oliveira 
>         >         Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2012 9:30 AM 
>         >         To: django-users@googlegroups.com 
>         >         Subject: Re: Django - Worldwide Developer Rates -
>         >         Hourly Income - location and project duration
>         >         specific 
>         >           
>         >         Nice work! Wouldn't be nice to do an automatic
>         >         statistic generation? Like a website with a form,
>         >         that anyone could just input the data and it'd
>         >         automatically update the statistics.
>         >         
>         >         Em quinta-feira, 26 de abril de 2012 10h31min56s
>         >         UTC-3, Raphael escreveu: 
>         >         
>         >                 
>         >                 Hello djangos, 
>         >                 
>         >                 I have talked to Kurtis and he thinks its a
>         >                 good idea to update the django developer
>         >                 rates for 2012.
>         >                 
>         >                 So we are going to do some worldwide
>         >                 statistics on the average hourly rates on
>         >                 django related projects in consideration of
>         >                 project specific parameters. (details below)
>         >                 As we think this is going to boost
>         >                 developers income worldwide. Know what you
>         >                 are worth! 
>         >                 
>         >                 But before we do those statistics - we need
>         >                 you to provide some project data under the
>         >                 following URL:
>         >                 
> http://develissimo.com/forum/topic/107887/?page=1#post-257943
>         >                 
>         >                 Contributors - please declare the following
>         >                 information: 
>         >                       * project - location/country (Great
>         >                         Britain, USA, China, ...) 
>         >                         project - beginning year
>         >                         (2010, ...) 
>         >                         project - duration (1 month, 3
>         >                         months, 12 months, ...) 
>         >                         project- description - short/one
>         >                         line (Examples: eCommerce, Forum,
>         >                         Parcel-API, Music-Store, Search
>         >                         Results Page, ERP, Real-Estate,...) 
>         >                         project- team-size (Examples: One
>         >                         person, Group of 2, 3, 4... ) 
>         >                         agent/middleman Is there an
>         >                         agent/middleman between you (the
>         >                         developer) and the client YES|NO 
>         >                         agent-margin If middleman - what do
>         >                         you think is his margin? (Examples:
>         >                         15%, 25%, ...) 
>         >                         $ Hourly Rate - in US-Dollar (we are
>         >                         located in Europe - but lets do this
>         >                         in USD please) 
>         >                         Additional Information - please feel
>         >                         free to provide additional
>         >                         information 
>         >                 
>         >                 If your project was/is payed via a total
>         >                 system cost, please calculate the hourly
>         >                 rate. Thank you. 
>         >                 
>         >                 As soon as there is enough information
>         >                 provided we will publish the data with neat
>         >                 statistics, graphics and analysis in the
>         >                 blog section under the following URL Blog -
>         >                 Here you will find the results page in some
>         >                 days/weeks 
>         >                 [develissimo.com] - so hopefully a lot of
>         >                 django and web-developers out there will be
>         >                 able to advance in prices. 
>         >                 Such information has helped developers in
>         >                 the past to know what they are worth - those
>         >                 statistics have to get updated from time to
>         >                 time and definitely will help our
>         >                 professional guild in the future as well. 
>         >                 
>         >                 Thank you for participating! 
>         >                 
>         >                 Kind regards, 
>         >                 Raphael
>         >                 
>         >                 
>         >         
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