Tim,

Does our system include a Python Interpreter?

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JJ

On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 6:55 PM, JJ Zolper <jzth...@gmail.com> wrote:

> So you feel that that documentation of Python is the best reference? I'm
> sure it is just wanted to ask.
>
> JJ
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 2:20 PM, Timothy Makobu <
> makobu.mwambir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> But first, all of this http://docs.python.org/tutorial/index.html
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Timothy Makobu <
>> makobu.mwambir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nice. Now read ALL of this http://djangobook.com/en/2.0/
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 9:55 PM, JJ Zolper <jzth...@gmail.cm> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Looks like I am in good shape!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much man!
>>>>
>>>> http://madtrak.com/success.png
>>>>
>>>> JJ
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 1:51 PM, JJ Zolper <jzth...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks! Yes sounds like something from my UNIX class. I have now added
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> What will django-admin.py do for me? Oh are you just saying I can run
>>>>> it from anywhere now? Any of the commands I want to work with 
>>>>> python/django?
>>>>>
>>>>> JJ
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Timothy Makobu <
>>>>> makobu.mwambir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, iPython is installed now. But now you need to add  
>>>>>> C:\Python27\Scripts
>>>>>> to your PATH variable, so you wont have to keep going there to run 
>>>>>> things.
>>>>>> After you add it, you can run django-admin.py, easy_install, iPython ...
>>>>>> from any directory in cmd.exe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This link shows you how:
>>>>>> http://geekswithblogs.net/renso/archive/2009/10/21/how-to-set-the-windows-path-in-windows-7.aspx
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 12:49 AM, JJ Zolper <jzth...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Okay I was able to get something to go there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At first I saw warnings so I wasn't sure but here are the images.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://madtrak.com/ipython1.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://madtrak.com/ipython2.png
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you think I am in good shape with ipython?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To perform the easy install of django would i execute: easy_install.exe
>>>>>>> django?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And if so would that just overwrite what I have already installed,
>>>>>>> like would it be good to do it a second time even though I think it 
>>>>>>> worked
>>>>>>> the first. Honestly, I'd probably leave it for now just wanted your
>>>>>>> thoughts on easy install.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> JJ
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Timothy Makobu <
>>>>>>> makobu.mwambir...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi, you're welcome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Easy install is usually in C:\Python27\Scripts
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> you can go there from within cmd.exe and run "easy_install.exe
>>>>>>>> ipython"  It should work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 7:56 PM, JJ Zolper <jzth...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tim,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I had a confirmation from William that I installed Django but you
>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>> iPython would be helpful and since I don't remember much Python I
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> hoping to make that work.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks so much for taking the time to help me get started you're a
>>>>>>>>> life saver! : )
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> JJ
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Nov 24, 11:56 pm, Timothy Makobu <makobu.mwambir...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >    - Install setup toolshttp://
>>>>>>>>> pypi.python.org/pypi/setuptools/0.6c11
>>>>>>>>> >    - Go to the command line (cmd.exe) and type
>>>>>>>>> >       - easy_install django
>>>>>>>>> >       - easy_install ipython (not needed by django, but very
>>>>>>>>> useful, as you
>>>>>>>>> >       will see when you come to running "python manage.py shell"
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > That's all!
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 3:59 AM, JJ Zolper <jzth...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> > > Okay just so everyone knows!
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > > I was able to extract the .tar file and I now see the files.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > > In order to import these files correctly should I place these
>>>>>>>>> files in the
>>>>>>>>> > > install directory of Python 2.7 and then attempt the commands?
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > > Or is the location of Django just arbitrary can I place it
>>>>>>>>> wherever I like
>>>>>>>>> > > and then work from the Python prompt?
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > > JJ
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > > On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Ivo Brodien <i...@brodien.de>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> windows users have extracted your command will look like
>>>>>>>>> this: .......
>>>>>>>>> > >> to execute the .tar file.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> as tom mentioned, you have to use 7zip two times.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> the tar file is another archive (like .zip, .gz ) which you
>>>>>>>>> have to
>>>>>>>>> > >> decompress and then you have the django directory and you can
>>>>>>>>> go on with
>>>>>>>>> > >> the tutorial.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> On Nov 24, 2011, at 17:55 , JJ Zolper wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> JoeLinux,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> Oh interesting. It seems the 64 bit version is sort of
>>>>>>>>> unclear. Any
>>>>>>>>> > >> help there?
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> Would I be able to install my Python is well with a smaller
>>>>>>>>> command? I
>>>>>>>>> > >> am back at ground zero because I had to adjust the Python
>>>>>>>>> version back
>>>>>>>>> > >> to 2.5 so Django would agree.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> I am interested just not sure how to work the 64 bit version.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> JJ
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> On Nov 24, 11:40 am, Joey Espinosa <jlouis.espin...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> If you install the "setuptools" package (http://goo.gl/UjFh),
>>>>>>>>> then all
>>>>>>>>> > >> you
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> have to do to install Django (or any other Python library) is
>>>>>>>>> this:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> easy_install django
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> And it will handle the rest. Just a suggestion.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> --
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> Joey "JoeLinux" Espinosa
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> Software Developerhttp://about.me/joelinux
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> On Nov 24, 2011 10:37 AM, "Tom Evans" <
>>>>>>>>> tevans...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 5:00 AM, JJ Zolper <jzth...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> Hello,
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> I am new to Django! I was able to download and install:
>>>>>>>>> Python 2.7.2
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> x86 64 on my Windows 7 64 bit machine. I think that is all
>>>>>>>>> that I will
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> need to execute the command line?
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> I installed Python to C:/Python27 as the program intended.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> I then downloaded: Django-1.3.1.tar.gz file and was try to
>>>>>>>>> figure
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> where to go to next. I used the 7 zip to extract it to:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> Django-1.3.1.tar. But I wasn't sure the next steps. I opened
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> Python cmd prompt. I typed the command in: tar xzvf
>>>>>>>>> Django-*.tar.gz.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> But I got errors about the portion "xzvf" I feel that the
>>>>>>>>> directories
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> are not set up correctly. Do I need to adjust my command for
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> directory because I already tried that.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> I would really appreciate a step through that would get me
>>>>>>>>> all set up
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> with the baseline. I am interested to moving on from to the
>>>>>>>>> more in
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> depth chapters. I tried hard to understand the input from the
>>>>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> on the page but I was unable to find anything that gave me
>>>>>>>>> any sense
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> of direction on how to place the Django files.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> JJ
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> PS. sorry this is available and I didn't see it in the new
>>>>>>>>> booklet.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> tar.gz is a gzipped (.gz) tape archive (.tar) file. 7zip
>>>>>>>>> should be
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> able to gunzip it and extract the files from the archive - it
>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> require two steps.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> The 'tar xzvf…' command is how one extracts a tar.gz under
>>>>>>>>> unix/linux
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> from the OS command line - not the python command line. As
>>>>>>>>> the docs
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> say, you can download and install bsdtar in windows, in which
>>>>>>>>> case the
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> OS command would be 'bsdtar zxvf …'.
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> This is the second time this week someone has had issues
>>>>>>>>> extracting a
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> tgz on windows - any chance that django could be packaged up
>>>>>>>>> in a more
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> Windows friendly zip file format in addition to tgz?
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >> Tom
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> > >>
>>>>>>>>> https://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.3/topics/install/#installing-an-o.
>>>>>>>>> ..
>>>>>>>>> >
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