On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:05 PM, Tom Evans <tevans...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:42 PM, Maksymus007 <maksymus...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > What my and company I work for experience show is that Java should simply > by > > used to solve other problems that Django or RoR solves. > > Developing medium-sized web-app in Django is for us big pain in the neck, > > especially when compared to development of other app using > > Java + PrimeFaces and all enterprise-stuff (Hibernate, ehCache etc). > > I don't see Django with Python with their, lets say, community and > > non-enterprise grade solutions (good WORKING SOAP library for Python?) is > > not suitable for really big thinks, thats all. > > On the other side..check Play! Framework for java ;) > > Only people who are brought up on Java EE/.NET believe SOAP is > useful/good. The rest of the world (yes, even us Enterprise with a big > E) prefer simpler REST interfaces. > > BTW, it is ironic that you are arguing that python lacks enterprise > features and give Hibernate as something Java has over Python on a > Django mailing list. Hibernate is an ORM and object persistence > library… which is precisely what Django's ORM does. > > We implement real world enterprise solutions using Django, and love > it. Take your FUD elsewhere please! > You sound like you never worked for anything that must works with some other solutions where choice of using SOAP over REST was made years ago. Hehe, you have right to belive that Django ORM is far better than Hibernate is, but it lacks lots of features that Hibernate has. I do not try to FUD, just to say that Django IS NOT silver bullet and in many real life examples, especially when quality and integration with other services is to be of of a first class Java is far more advanced by all means. It is imporant to use right tool for the jobs, not other way round. If you need to make rich-component, scalable web application and maintain it for few years that Java is better solution for me. And plz, try not to be childlish, its Django mailing list but there is nothing wrong in saying that Django, again, is not a silver buller for every possible application. > > Cheers > > Tom > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django users" group. > To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to django-users+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users?hl=en.