to my great annoyance, not specifying active has lead to the objects
being created as I wanted.  But I cannot rely on this.  Seems like
m.active is true if either true or false is specified, and is false if
it is never initialized.

On Jun 9, 2:24 pm, elliot <offonoffoffon...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I am not new to django, but this misbehavior is blowing my mind.  I
> cannot understand what is happening.  please help.
>
> Django 1.1
>
> I have:
> class MeetingMember(models.Model):
>     lastname = models.CharField(max_length = 30)
>     firstname = models.CharField(max_length = 30)
>     active = models.BooleanField()
>
> and a script to set initial values:
>
> def fillmembers():
>
>     pad_unreals= 1
>
>     print "ALL: ",MeetingMember.objects.all()
>
>     for x in range(pad_unreals):
>         m = MeetingMember()
>         m.firstname, m.lastname = 'unsued','unused'
>         m.save()
>         print "1: ",m.pk,m.active
>         m.active = "False"
>         print "2: ",m.active
>         m.save()
>         print "3: ",m.pk,m.active
>         print ""
>
>     for x in MeetingMember.objects.all():
>         print x.pk,x.active
>
> And the output i get is:
>
> ALL:  []
> 1:  1 False
> 2:  False
> 3:  1 False
>
> 1 True
>
> ###
>
> !?
>
> This is starting with a freshly synced DB (sqlite)
>
> First, why can i save without specifying active? (also, the CharFields
> seem to be empty stings and i can save without specifying them also)
>
> second, after specifying false, saving and verifying that it is false,
> when I retrieve it from the DB, I get true!
>
> I can edit it in the admin to false and it stays false,  I can edit it
> on the command line and it stays false.  but the script behaves oddly.
>
> please help, and I will learn something important.

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