James

I know that asking "when" for delivery of an open source project is
not usually a question that can be answered accurately, but would it
be possible for you to give at least a broad estimation of which of
the following is closest to a time-frame for the next release that
includes an updated-and-production-ready (foundational)
social_project:
a) next few weeks
b) next few months
c) maybe sometime in 2011

Thanks
Derek

On Jan 23, 1:21 am, James Tauber <jtau...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jan 18, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
>
>
>
> > I think we need to clear up some misconceptions here.
> [...]
> > Pinax, on the other hand, works at a higher level. Pinax targets a
> > specific domain -- social web apps
>
> Actually, this is a major misconception. Pinax is not targeting a specific 
> domain. And in fact, the social features are probably those features of Pinax 
> least production-ready. Sites like eldarion.com, us.pycon.org, 
> pinaxproject.com, gondor.io and quisition.com are all examples of Pinax that 
> have nothing particularly "social" about them.
>
> > So - you really don't have to make a "Pinax or Django" decision. Any
> > app that can be installed in a Django site can also be installed in a
> > Pinax site, and every Pinax site is a Django site.
>
> Exactly.
>
> > As for the original question -- are there any drawbacks? Well, not
> > really. Pinax suggests a particular collection of apps, but you can
> > use any other app you want in parallel. Pinax mandates a few standards
> > for project layout and the like, but for the most part, they're just
> > using the best practices commonly understood by experienced members of
> > the Django community, but the Django project itself hasn't gone to the
> > trouble of formalizing.
>
> Yep. And it's important to note you can use Pinax *just* for this. The 
> zero_project is appropriate for almost any kind of django site and, for the 
> most common type of account management, account_project is a good starting 
> point.
>
> > About the only potential downside I can see is that If you're not
> > building something in Pinax's sweet spot -- i.e., a social web site --
> > you won't get all the benefits that Pinax has to offer. If you're
> > building something *really* different, you might find that Pinax's
> > conventions obstruct you in ways that a raw Django install wouldn't.
> > However, for most "websitey" websites, this won't be an issue --
> > Pinax's conventions are, for the most part, a bunch of practices that
> > you should probably be following anyway -- Pinax just forces/provides
> > the tools to help you to follow them :-)
>
> The social stuff is in many ways Pinax's current weakness. It's the social 
> stuff that hasn't been updated for our next release yet (although we're 
> working towards it)
>
> I was planning on doing this anyway, but this thread has encouraged me even 
> more than I need to write some blog posts about things like Pinax's 
> zero_project, static_project and account_project in the coming weeks.
>
> James

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