On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 10:48 PM, James Bennett <ubernost...@gmail.com>wrote:

> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 9:19 AM, didier rano <didier.r...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > What do you think about this post
> > ? http://blog.skeedy.com/django-rails-but-a-cost-to-pay
>
> I think...
>
> * A community, but it is not so easy to find developers compared to Java or
> .NET
>
> True, but finding *good* developers in any language, which is the real
> goal no matter what you're working with, is so difficult people write
> whole books on it and *still* fail.
>
> * With dynamic languages, we cannot use powerful IDE as Visual Studio.
> It is not a problem for me, but some developers like completion,
> compilation…
>
> Eclipse/PyDev will do this. Komodo will do this. Aptana will do this.
> Visual Studio will do it with IronPython. Shall we continue the list
> of IDEs which work with dynamic languages and offer all the crutches
> people are used to?
>
> * Quality check tools are less powerful because dynamic languages
>
> Just in the Python world, PyLint, Cheesecake, coverage.py and quite a
> few other quality-checking libraries would like to have a word with
> you, along with approximately eight zillion testing frameworks,
> harnesses and mock-object libraries.
>
> * Difficult to use Java or .NET libraries. Example: A lot of analytics
> semantic libraries exist in Java, but not in Python.
>
> So use Jython, which lets you blend together Python code and Java
> libraries any way you like, and even lets you deploy your Python
> applications as Java WAR files. Or IronPython which does pretty much
> the same with .NET.
>
> * Small and smart community then some developers could be arrogant, be
> “the chosen one”.
>
> Says the guy who's been factually wrong on every technical statement
> he's made about Python so far in this post?
>
> * “Religions” wars are useless…
>
> And of course, no Java developers or .NET developers ever have silly
> or pointless arguments. Only people who use dynamic languages do
> that... or something?
>
> * A lot of freelance developers, but startups needs to have internal
> developers too.
>
> Doesn't this contradict the first point? "It's so hard to find
> developers" versus "wow, there are so many developers I can contract
> with".
>
> In other words, this is poorly researched, factually wrong on most of
> its points, arguably self-contradictory... and you expected people not
> to argue with you about it?
>
> 2/10. Do better next time.
>

1.5/10

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