On May 16, 2006, at 8:25 AM, Bill de hÓra wrote: > Which is to say in Java land we used to start with manager classes and > wish for generic DB APIs (like, we did that for *years*, until > Hibernate/Ibatis came along). I've never seen any interesting db- > backed > app not need to go round Managers eventually to get something done, > ergo > DB APIs rock - and if things crystalise you can refactor the call into > the Manager. But given the quality of DB apis these days, I wouldn't > start with Managers.
I'll just point out here that Django's ORM is in some sense *deliberately* underpowered in recognition of this fact. At times it's easier to Just Write SQL™ instead of trying to kludge an ORM into doing the right thing. In other words: DB-API: too cold Hibernate: too hot Django: *just* right (Which I suppose makes me Goldilocks, and I'm not sure how I feel about that.) Jacob --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django users" group. To post to this group, send email to django-users@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-users -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
