I did experiment with it. The main problem is that the image we use requires a bunch of system libraries (see https://github.com/django/django-docker-box/blob/master/Dockerfile#L4 <https://github.com/django/django-docker-box/blob/master/Dockerfile#L4>). I think a few where missing our outdated in Alpine, but if that's changed then I'm not against trying it again.
Tom > On 8 Oct 2019, at 11:58, Nick Sarbicki <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just out of interest, Tom, have you tried using Alpine as the base? Or is > there a reason to avoid it? > > I usually find once you introduce all the dependencies for django it doesn't > make a huge difference but it might shave some of the weight off if we're > worried about image size. > > > - Nick > > > On Tue, Oct 8, 2019 at 11:52 AM Josh Smeaton <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > I was going to archive the repo, but it seems I don't have the necessary > permissions. Carlton, do you? > > On Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:45:22 UTC+11, Adam Johnson wrote: > +1 to archiving django-box > > On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 at 11:01, Tom Forbes <[email protected] <>> wrote: > Thank you for the kind words Bruno! I'm glad it's helped you, if you have any > suggestions for improvements then please open an issue on the repo or post a > message here, I know it's not perfect. I would have replied earlier but this > message didn't get delivered to me. > > I'm biased, but I'd be +1 on archiving the old django-box. It's served us > well, but unless someone is willing to spend some time updating it then it's > going to confuse new users. > > On Friday, 4 October 2019 12:40:02 UTC+1, Bruno Alla wrote: > Just a note that as a newish contributor to Django, this django-docker-box is > fantastic, it makes things much easier to setup. > > Thank you to everyone involved! > > On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 00:02:27 UTC, Tom Forbes wrote: > To have this completely working at sprints without having everyone building > their own local images we would need to have the Jenkins server use docker in > some capacity. This would also require an official django account on Docker > hub. > > The pattern I’m using right now is that on every build we pull the > django-ci:latest image (from my personal account). Docker uses this image as > a cache automatically (preventing rebuilds). On any successful master build > we push the new image to docker-hub, so subsequent builds can utilise it. > > Then anyone wanting to speed up their bootstrapping can do docker-compose > pull and automatically have the latest image available for running right > away. We can make this smaller, for sure, but we can also suggest people > download this beforehand (i.e at their hotel). > > I don’t know how feasible this is but it’s also very easy to run a caching > docker mirror (docker run -p 5000:5000 registry). Organizers could run this > at large events and configuring docker to use a local mirror on the network > is a one-line change for atendees. > > > > > > On 4 December 2018 at 23:52:42, Josh Smeaton ([email protected] <>) wrote: > >> Size of the image could definitely be a concern, especially at sprints where >> wifi speeds aren't always optimal. The django-box image is significantly >> larger though so it'd still be a net win. There are also optimisations that >> can be made to the image for reducing size over time, so I'd fully expect it >> to come down. I've spent a little bit of time trying to optimise a $work$ >> python docker file, I'll provide what I've got as an issue to possibly look >> at. >> >> I see that the ticket has been accepted and I think that's a great step >> forward. I'd also like to hear from the infrastructure team what their >> thoughts on using docker over customised build environments would be. >> >> Florian, Tim, Markus .. any thoughts? (Apologies, I've missed some, this >> list of names is from memory). >> >> On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 10:39:16 UTC+11, Tom Forbes wrote: >> Thank you for the reply Josh. I didn’t anticipate any suggestions for >> including this inside core but off the back of your suggestion I’ve made a >> ticket here: https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30010 >> <https://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/30010>. >> >> I don’t think it should be complex at all to include this inside Django - >> it’s four or five new files at most. Hopefully this should improve the >> experience at sprints, however the current Dockerfile weighs in at 650+mb so >> the problem may switch from ‘it is hard to set up an environment’ to ‘it is >> hard to download one’! >> >> >> >> >> On 5 November 2018 at 23:02:30, Josh Smeaton ([email protected] <>) wrote: >> >>> I'm sorry I haven't had the time to review or contribute yet, but I think >>> it'll be a very useful project - especially for new contributors that might >>> have a little docker experience. The current vagrant solution is heavy, >>> does not work properly on windows and some linuxes, and isn't that easy to >>> maintain or deploy. I'd be in favour of adding the docker files directly to >>> django/django to minimise setup burden (DJANGO_PATH), and improving the >>> contributing docs to show users how to test using docker. >>> >>> One of the hardest things I found at sprints was getting development >>> environments setup to effectively contribute - even using the docker-box >>> project which I understand quite well. Anything we can do to improve that >>> situation will be very beneficial. >>> >>> I have fewer opinions about the official CI story, hopefully some of the >>> infrastructure team can comment more on that. I think that replacing the >>> ansible roles with a docker setup can have some definite improvements and >>> open up CI tasks to a larger pool of people (anyone that can edit docker >>> files), but it'd come with maintaining the host that runs docker (cleaning >>> up images, dealing with disk space issues, etc). >>> >>> >>> On Monday, 5 November 2018 01:20:03 UTC+11, Tom Forbes wrote: >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I’ve been working on a docker-compose based alternative to django-box >>> (imaginatively named django-docker-box) over the last month and it finally >>> appears to be mostly complete. >>> >>> For reference the tool is just a Dockerfile and a docker-compose definition >>> that is able to run a complete test matrix of every supported Python and DB >>> version. It’s as simple as docker-compose run sqlite. You can see a full >>> test run (excluding oracle) here: >>> https://travis-ci.com/orf/django-docker-box/builds/90167436 >>> <https://travis-ci.com/orf/django-docker-box/builds/90167436> >>> Florian suggested I create a thread here to gather feedback and discuss any >>> potential future directions for the project, so here goes: >>> >>> Firstly I’d like to know if there is any support for moving this under the >>> Django project itself, maybe even as a replacement for django-box? I think >>> the setup is pretty quick compared to django-box and is more flexible in >>> terms of database version support as well as working with Oracle. I’d also >>> really like some help improving Oracle support if anyone has the time! >>> >>> Secondly is there any support for integrating this with our current Jenkins >>> setup? I think it would be pretty neat to have parity between what runs on >>> the CI and what we can run locally and have any improvements shared between >>> both. Perhaps a full matrix run (which right now is 66 different >>> environments) is out of the question but a smaller subset could be good? >>> >>> Thirdly, and this is a bit wild, but what about using this to reduce the >>> burden of running Jenkins by running the tests on a managed CI service like >>> Travis CI? We would likely still need Jenkins due to issues with Oracle and >>> running tests on Windows (unlesshttps://github.com/django/django/pull/10259 >>> <https://github.com/django/django/pull/10259> works with Docker!), but we >>> could offload some of the environments onto a third party service. Travis >>> gives large OS projects like Django increased concurrency limits on their >>> accounts so we could end up with pretty speedy test runs. Also with >>> docker-compose switching between CI services (including Jenkins) would be >>> very simple. >>> >>> The repo is here: https://github.com/orf/django-docker-box >>> <https://github.com/orf/django-docker-box>. >>> >>> Any feedback on these points or the project itself would be greatly >>> appreciated, >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to [email protected] <>. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] <>. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/django-developers >>> <https://groups.google.com/group/django-developers>. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/074f68c9-2199-4128-a37a-bfc1852f4806%40googlegroups.com >>> >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/074f68c9-2199-4128-a37a-bfc1852f4806%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] <>. >> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/django-developers >> <https://groups.google.com/group/django-developers>. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/64a2874a-01d1-4ffd-acaa-a811ee5de5ee%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/64a2874a-01d1-4ffd-acaa-a811ee5de5ee%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/04b7db46-f6d4-4f60-9e28-4a4b41f84cad%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/04b7db46-f6d4-4f60-9e28-4a4b41f84cad%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > > -- > Adam > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/90f70b0e-9082-489c-ae0a-98341c917a48%40googlegroups.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/90f70b0e-9082-489c-ae0a-98341c917a48%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAGuvt93zYniq5uL7me-Pa4D%3DnEJb0aox0PcfheVMqOFFFWRwzQ%40mail.gmail.com > > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/CAGuvt93zYniq5uL7me-Pa4D%3DnEJb0aox0PcfheVMqOFFFWRwzQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers (Contributions to Django itself)" group. 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