This project probably qualifies here:

https://www.atlassian.com/software/views/open-source-license-request


On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 2:05:40 PM UTC-5, Ira Abbott wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Just in case that JIRA crack was NOT sarcasm ...
>
> https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/pricing  How many users would be 
> needed?  If going this way, I smell the need for a gateway / JIRA backend 
> for the community site and small number of actual JIRA users with the 
> creation coming from a single user with some sort of 'community-user' data 
> field patched in.  JIRA is certainly flexible and configurable this way and 
> capable of interface to other enterprise apps.  We would have to find out 
> how to make this work within their terms of service ...
>
> Otherwise, its probably "BYOL" for contributors at about <$7 / month.  
> i.e. possibly "$7/month for each month active", though I think they will 
> change for a constant number, which means managing floaters.  While new to 
> this community, I suspect that any other arrangement than these two is 
> prohibitive.  And even managing floaters for anyone not locked in by 
> commitment (contract) to the group adds risk to the group from the whatever 
> commitment exists with Atlassian for any fixed number.  This could 
> potentially bankrupt the group if not managed correctly.
>
> My other advice is to "KISS" when using JIRA.  All that configuration can 
> lead to a tendency for organizations to attempt to solve all of their 
> problems building workflows there.  This is VERY STICKY, hence the behemoth 
> that Atlassian has become and will continue to be for some time in to the 
> future.
>
> Finally, any major changes such as this are like an a manufacturing 
> organization changing ERP packages (been through several of those) - they 
> NEVER GO WELL, and inevitably, when the smoke clears users will long for 
> the old system despite its glaring deficiencies.
>
> I therefore will hold that improvements should be made to Trac in an 
> incremental Agile fashion rather than any conversion requiring a waterfall 
> rollout.  This is the part where Trac should be STICKY for the group, or 
> this will be disruptive.
>
> And besides, I like Python in general and don't to fall victim to 'pay to 
> play' to Atlassian / Oracle to develop open source software that, believe 
> me, refers everything Python as 'a bunch of scripts'.  I get enough of that 
> at work which is part of why I am here.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ira
>
> On Monday, December 10, 2018 at 12:10:05 PM UTC-5, Dan Davis wrote:
>>
>> Tom, you are right about the UX issues, but full-text and inverted 
>> indexing would help with the responsiveness as well.  Technically, I was 
>> talking about djangoproject's TracSearch 
>> <https://code.djangoproject.com/search>.  That's closer to good UX as 
>> well, because you can get there by progressive enhancement rather than 
>> taking stuff away.
>>
>> You are also right that switching to another system such as github issues 
>> could be a better fix than customizing Trac.   But I find it difficult to 
>> believe that Github issues grows up to cover as much workflow management as 
>> Trac issues or JIRA.   Maybe we need money to get JIRA.
>>
>>
>>

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