Never done either of those things, and I'm completely not set up to do them.  I 
will if creating this subject has made me the owner of it, but it's a lot more 
work for me than it would be for someone else.  I'd start with the Writing your 
First Django Patch part of the tutorial, yes?

Thanks for the explanation.  I had a form in what I was pretty sure was the 
wrong place, and it was working, but it rankled so hard I had to look for why.

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