Russ, I think the suggestion was merely to change the display name of the group. I don't see any downsides to trying something like "Django developers (core development)".
On Friday, September 5, 2014 1:45:58 PM UTC-4, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > > > Hi Robert, > > Thanks for the suggestion. > > You're not the first to make the suggestion - the same suggestion has been > made many times in the past. You can search the archives if you want to see > those discussions. > > There are a number of problems with this proposal: > > 1) History. There are 10 years of archives and blog links that reference > existing discussions. If we rename the group, all those links break. That > would be a huge loss to the community. > > 2) More importantly, you can't solve a social problem with technology. At > the end of the day, it's a name. It doesn't matter which name you pick - > *someone* is going to interpret it incorrectly. To pick some of the > suggestions that have been made: > > * "Django Masters" and "Django Private" both imply that newcomers aren't > welcome to join and make suggestions, which is a social signal we don't > want to send. > * "Django Core" could be interpreted to mean that it's only for the core > team - and, by the by, there *is* a "django-core" list for private core > team discussions (there aren't many of these, but it sometimes necessary > for security sensitive issues, etc) > * "Django debate" doesn't make it clear who is discussing what. > > Yes, I agree that the "you should be posting to Django-users" message > isn't ideal, and some of the responses that are given don't have the best > tone. If your first message to a Django group gets a response that sounds > like "go away", that's not a good look for the community. > > However, I *guarantee* that renaming the list won't make this problem go > away. > > Yours, > Russ Magee %-) > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 12:58 AM, Robert Grant <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> I am one of the happy few who read the line about what this group is for >> before I started posting. >> >> However, that line, and the endless supply of people who think this is >> for Django developers (see also: Java developers are generally considered >> to be people* who develop in Java, not who develop Java), might be symptoms >> of the fact that this group has a funny name for something that is both >> *developed* and *developed in*. >> >> Can we rename it >> <https://sites.google.com/a/griffith.edu.au/staff-email-learning-centre/help-yourself/google-groups/renaming-a-google-group>? >> >> :) Some semi-serious suggestions (because I can't think of an obvious >> alternative) : >> >> Django Masters >> Django Private >> Django Debate >> Django Internals >> Aymeric And Friends >> >> >> >> >> >> * Yes, they're still people. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Django developers" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> <javascript:>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/fd27a285-be01-417f-ab4b-4026d7221239%40googlegroups.com >> >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/fd27a285-be01-417f-ab4b-4026d7221239%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/django-developers/7f4671f4-0698-438f-a842-75fef87be0da%40googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
