BTW, the URLs
http://blog-amirouche.dotcloud.com/notes/2013/admin-next-a-new-api.html
http://amirouche.github.io/blog/django-admin-next-a-new-api.html
lead to 404s.

The correct one is
http://www.hypermove.net/notes/2013/admin-next-a-new-api.html

On Saturday, March 30, 2013 5:49:27 PM UTC-5, Amirouche Boubekki wrote:
>
>
> 2013/3/30 Victor Hooi <[email protected] <javascript:>>
>
>> heya,
>>
>> Aha, yes - we need a roadmap, and somebody from the team to execute it 
>> *grins*.
>>
>> For the former - I believe there was already discussions on that sort of 
>> thing on this board?
>>
>> There's a wiki page with some notes as well:
>>
>> https://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/AdminNext
>>
>> I also had a look at some of the existing projects:
>>
>>    - https://github.com/yawd/yawd-admin
>>    - https://github.com/michaelhelmick/django-bootstrap-admin (Doesn't 
>>    appear to be too active)
>>    - https://github.com/riccardo-forina/django-admin-bootstrapped
>>    - https://github.com/aobo711/bootstrap-django-admin
>>    - 
>> https://github.com/gkuhn1/django-admin-templates-twitter-bootstrap(Doesn't 
>> appear to be too active)
>>    - https://github.com/divio/djangocms-admin-style
>>
>> And there's obviously Grapelli.
>>
>> A lot of these are obviously just reskins, while others offer a bit more.
>>
>> From the existing projects, we can draw two clear requirements that 
>> people want:
>>
>>    - Changing the look and feel - I'm not sure what Django core's 
>>    feelings on it, but there seems to be a feeling from the community that 
>> the 
>>    look of the current Django Admin is somewhat dated? Also, any new admin 
>>    should probably be responsive, and work on mobile or non-desktop devices, 
>>    if that's possible. 
>>
>>
> This question leads to another should Django develop its own css framework 
> and re-use existing one, if Django use an existing one, Django must make it 
> easy to work with the preprocessor. While I liked much bootstrap, 
> foundation's mobile first approach of Foundation is appealing even if more 
> verbose.
>  
>
>>
>>    - More customisations -  a lot of people want to create dashboards 
>>    around the admin, add new sections/tabs, or move things around - the 
>>    current Admin doesn't have much scope for that, or it's not easily 
>>    accessible. 
>>
>> Those are all things that are doable right now. I though it was about 
> something more «disruptive» that's why I called the page AdminNext to 
> follow the naming of next html version... whatever the naming, the goal 
> should be the same aka. not only a cbv-Admin which should only adress the 
> customisability (and readability) side but add features. This lead me to 
> the group/permission-centric admin which creates menu based on permissions, 
> but I did not implement it. I've documented a sketch API [1], but I'm not 
> very happy with it, I'm now thinking about something in the spirit of 
> lettuce to create an admin.
>
> I stopped working on the composite admin because a) the composite thing is 
> too much b) I wasn't confortable with the code handling inlines in current 
> admin so I started thinking about fixing it but got stuck (!).
>
> Also there is this conversation that is somehow related: 
> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/django-developers/wI18E6BZImQ/TS2wSvUCkaAJ
>
> Maybe Django should gather money somehow and tell a company to do the job 
> instead of relying on the community ?
>
> HTH,
>
> Amirouche
>
> [1] http://amirouche.github.com/blog/django-admin-next-a-new-api.html
>
>  
>
>> For the latter, not sure I can help you there...lol. I thought Idan Gazit 
>> was working on something before though? Or are there other designers on the 
>> Core team? 
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Victor
>>
>> On Sunday, 24 March 2013 22:14:58 UTC+11, Russell Keith-Magee wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 24, 2013 at 6:20 PM, Victor Hooi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I read recently about Andrew Goodwin's successful kickstarter project 
>>>> for better Django schema migrations:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.kickstarter.com/**projects/andrewgodwin/schema-**
>>>> migrations-for-django<http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/andrewgodwin/schema-migrations-for-django>
>>>>
>>>> Kudos to him for awesome work on South so far a swell =).
>>>>
>>>> There doesn't seem to be much movement on the Admin front - 
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/**msg/django-developers/**
>>>> Vozu6U3gz84/vvbTqrWitxIJ<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/django-developers/Vozu6U3gz84/vvbTqrWitxIJ>
>>>>
>>>> I'm wondering - is there any impetus for a similar kickstarter for the 
>>>> Django admin?
>>>>
>>>> I for one would be willing to put my money where my mouth is and back 
>>>> it - and I'm sure other people/companies who use Django in their own 
>>>> projects would as well.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Good to hear :-)
>>>
>>> There's one significant difference here. Andrew's project was to deliver 
>>> South-like functionality to trunk. South is a known quantity, and there 
>>> have been discussions and threads about exactly what merging South into 
>>> trunk would look like. And on top of all that, Andrew is the principle 
>>> author of South, so he's well positioned to do the work.
>>>
>>> What's the feature set for a new Admin? What are the design goals? And 
>>> most importantly, who is going to do the work?
>>>
>>> I'm not saying these questions can't be answered -- but the answers 
>>> aren't clear at the moment (at least, not to me). Once we've got a clear 
>>> plan, and someone who is available to deliver on that plan, then a 
>>> Kickstarter might be appropriate.
>>>
>>> Yours,
>>> Russ Magee %-)
>>>
>>>
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