On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Jeremy Dunck <[email protected]> wrote:

> I was wondering if people would be opposed to an opinionated tutorial?
>  For example: you should use virtualenv and pip, south, should handle
> requirements this way, should prefer factories over fixtures, should
> have this project directory layout, etc.
>
> I could go either way - my preferred approach isn't right in all
> cases, and it might seem a distraction to the absolute beginner or a
> person who has their own opinions.


I think we should shy away from teaching "best practices" when they are
external to Django. Pointing people at other useful projects in an aside
may be useful, but making pip, virtualenv and south part of the mainline
tutorial is a bad idea for two reasons: (1) For people who are already
versed in python and/or web development best practices, it takes away from
what they want to learn: the core features of Django that differentiate it
from other frameworks. (2) For people who are brand new to programming
and/or python, it blurs boundaries and confuses them about what is really
important. A new programmer has no way to distinguish between "manage.py
startproject tutorial" and "pip install south". One is a core feature of
Django development, the other is a third-party Python tool to download a
third-party dependency.

People can and do write blog posts all the time that go something like,
"How to install Django on Ubuntu 12.04" that give a series of six commands
to paste into a console. There's always the danger that they are incorrect
or misguided, but on the whole they are more likely to be relevant for
setting up a sane Django environment on some specific operating system than
we can be in a general tutorial. They are also dated and appropriately
transient: a blog post from 2008 can be forgiven for missing some latest
best practices, whereas a tutorial enshrined in Django's official
documentation cannot.

Best,
Alex Ogier

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