On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:42 PM, Wim Feijen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi, thanks for your quick responses!
>
> Flavio, Jan and Florian, it only "gives away information" when an
> attacker guesses both the username and the password right.

I think this is the correct approach. Give them the access warning on
correct login. It also seems to be the standard way to doing such
things in my experience.

>
> But if he can guess those right, he could already access the users
> information using the normal login! So giving this message does not
> change the danger. On the other hand, it would prevent lots of
> confusion.

We really shouldn't be confusing the end user. It's just bad design to do so.

>
> But we are repeating arguments here, so could you please read:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers/browse_thread/thread/df19241a0b1a04ef
>
> before responding?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Wim
>
>
> On 13 sep, 19:23, Flávio Amieiro <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > +1, if the user/pass is entered, that user is entitled so know what its own
>> > permissions are.
>> > The error should give "You have insufficient access to this page" or
>> > something like that.
>>
>> The thing is: if someone does a brute force attack on '/admin/' and
>> gets this message back, they know there's a user with that
>> login/password in the system. Since brute force attacks using common
>> login/password pairs in this kinds of urls is so common, I think this
>> exposes your user more than necessary.
>>
>> -1
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