“Dr. Trigon” <dr.tri...@surfeu.ch> writes: > The thing I wonder is; we have a quite good solution XMPP - now why follow the > hype just to get something that may be very dubious…?
But /is/ XMPP a good solution? Admittedly, it’s been a long time since I last used it, but it’s been terribly fragmented, and my attempt to get friends and family to use it were not successful. Heck, I didn’t like it much myself. A communication tool that only you yourself use is not terribly useful, right? XMPP might be an appropriate choice for the technical crowd, but probably not everyone else. Matrix, now, is a different story. My family and those friends I care about the most had no issues adopting Element. Especially now that cross-signing works, having effortless end-to-end encrypted chat with not much technical knowledge required is a very good thing in my opinion. The article you linked raises some very worrying issues which I was not aware of; thank you for pointing them out. But, first, as others noted, it’s been a few years since the article was posted, so this topic is due a refresh. Second, I don’t much like the tone it is written in. For example (paraphrasing) “Matrix developers responded, but we didn’t even read that because we don’t care”. And third, I don’t think absolutes like “Matrix sends a lot of data” are the best way to look at this. How does it compare to similar widely-used services like Signal and Telegram? How does it compare to an XMPP setup with similar functionality and user experience (I assume that such a thing is possible nowadays, it wasn’t when I last used it)? I think it would be useful to know where Matrix stands in the landscape of communication tools, and to see some path it could take to get to a more privacy-friendly position. Just my thoughts. I’d love to do some research myself, but I have already committed all of my free time. If you or someone else can dig up the current state of things, I would greatly appreciate it. Best, Jure
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