I am thinking why write this after all of this time about the case mentioned.
Also after the ElasticSearch or MongoDB case as example.

I guess that is very late as point of discussion and now he is retiring from 
FSF.

What the FSFE can do about the topic of "Licensing Free Software for commercial use 
and redistribution" and what is the point?

I think that is something very big and involve anyone in the world but there 
isn't so much from OSI or other foundation about that topic.

PS: Anyway I think that John is right on his points but I don't see any 
solution or action.


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Il 02/07/21 09:19, Carsten Agger ha scritto:

A really good discussion from the outgoing FSF director:


https://www.fsf.org/bulletin/2021/spring/thinking-clearly-about-corporations


For software to be considered free, its license must allow for commercial use 
and redistribution. Yet, free software as a social movement is to a large 
extent a struggle against for-profit corporate control of our lives.

Instead of telling companies they are not welcome in free software, we say they 
are welcome if they follow the ethical principles -- the Four Freedoms. In our 
engagement with them, we see both positive and negative impacts. We also see 
some parts of the community being overly solicitous of corporate support, and 
other parts describing even seemingly positive actions as necessarily part of a 
long con to eventually extinguish free software.

We need to think clearly -- somewhere between these extremes -- about corporate 
involvement, neither falling over ourselves to invite it, nor being so 
endlessly suspicious that we miss out on valuable contributions and ultimately 
fail to change the practices of a significant sector of global society.

Clear thinking begins with seeing for-profit corporations for what they are: 
for-profit organizations. They are not individuals. A company's behaviors can 
change dramatically, not just from change in the individuals they employ, but 
also from changes in leadership, ownership, or business circumstances.

These are not hypothetical concerns. In free software, many eyes are now on Red Hat, to 
see if its behavior toward free software will change as a result of being bought by IBM. 
We saw Redis Labs switch some of its software from a free license to a nonfree one which 
ironically prohibits commercial re-use. We've seen Google in the past decide to withhold 
the source code for Android. We've seen Microsoft switch from publicly calling free 
software a cancer to saying "We are all in on open source."

Companies can commit valuable resources to actions that benefit the free software 
movement. They can hire developers, sponsor events, fund advocacy and education, and 
provide infrastructure. Individuals can convince their employers to release code 
under a free license, and to distribute it with their products. They can even 
persuade the company to pursue certification under the FSF's Respects Your Freedom 
program <https://ryf.fsf.org/>.

These contributions are meaningful. The challenge is, how do we realize them 
while avoiding the ways corporations can hurt free software? We need to avoid 
financial dependency, keep our standards high, and rely on a solid legal 
framework rather than vague trust.

Avoiding financial dependency means making sure our operations as free software 
projects and organizations won't be seriously harmed by a corporation 
withdrawing its support due to a disagreement or an ownership change. As an 
example, while we appreciate and make productive use of all the direct 
corporate patron support we receive at the FSF, in our last audited financial 
year, it was less than 3% of our total revenue.

To keep standards high, free software projects and organizations should be 
conservative in what we offer in return for contributions. As with any 
donation, specific public recognition and appreciation can make sense. But 
selling conference keynotes, for example, takes the interaction out of the 
realm of a donation and makes it a transaction. Plus, when some events offer 
the moon in exchange for sponsorships, it puts more pressure on other events to 
do so.

Relying on a solid legal framework means relying on copyleft, and on explicit, 
enforceable statements about who holds relevant rights when a contribution is 
made by the employee of a company. The GNU General Public License (GPL) has 
enabled decades of constructive engagement, because it requires companies to 
give back improvements they distribute, under the same terms to everyone, and 
its terms don't change even with new company leadership or after an 
acquisition. For certain GNU packages, the FSF gets additional assurances, in 
the form of copyright assignments and employer disclaimers, to help make sure 
we can effectively uphold these license terms according to the Principles of 
Community-Oriented GPL Enforcement, and can protect all of the program's users 
from patent or other ownership claims by contributors' employers.

We should stay watchful and firm on these points. Over the last year, I have 
seen firsthand multiple cases of Google employees encouraging projects to relax 
their license from the Affero General Public License (AGPL), because of 
Google's wrong-headed policy forbidding any involvement by employees with AGPL 
projects. If you receive pressure like this from any company, stay strong and 
explain how copyleft is in the best interest of all contributors to the project 
(also, tell us your story at i...@fsf.org).

A person is capable of moral commitments outside of legal agreements, but 
accountability for companies works differently. This position isn't based on 
conspiracy, or on assumptions about corporate employees. It is based on 
relating to for-profit companies as the kind of entity they are. If we avoid 
dependency, keep our standards high, and ensure the terms of our work together 
are copyleft, we can edge the corporate sector ever closer to fully embracing 
free software, which will in turn help us move all sectors of society in that 
direction, securing freedom and autonomy for all.

/On a personal note, I'll be finishing my term as FSF's executive director 
before the next issue of the Bulletin is published, so this will be my last 
article. It's been an honor to appear here, to have had this chance to 
contribute to important ongoing conversations in this community. We'll be 
publishing details about the transition to a new executive director on fsf.org. 
Please continue supporting the work of the FSF's incredible staff, some 
highlights of which are described in the rest of this issue -- and all the 
future issues to come!/

//

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