On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 01:41:06PM +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote:
> Lionel Élie Mamane <lio...@mamane.lu> wrote:
>> On Tue, Oct 29, 2019 at 12:13:41AM +0100, marc wrote:
>>> Lionel wrote:

>>>>>> I know that I'm old-fashioned in this respect, but I think for online 
>>>>>> discussions no better system than Usenet has been invented, but mailing 
>>>>>> lists are the next best options.

>>>>> Full ACK.

>>>> Have you lived the heydays of Fidonet?

>>> I am going to assume that Lionel's comment was meant snarkily.

>> No, it wasn't. As I remember things, Fidonet echomail & netmail was
>> more "power user"-friendly than Usenet/NNTP.

> Iʼm arfaid, you missed the key point while trying to compare Fidonet
> with Usenet.

> Fidonet was not meant as an alternative to Usenet (or e-mail), it
> was designed as an amateur alternative to the whole Internet, where
> nodes were meant to connect each other over phone lines.

I didn't see it that way at the time. Fidonet was thriving at a time
where commercial Internet access was not available, or in its very
early infancy, for the general public. At least in Europe.

It was a communication network, yes a hobby / amateur network, that
grew and developed in the "amateur" world parallel to the development
of Internet/Usenet/email in academia. Not as something developed or
launched as an alternative to Internet/Usenet/email.

But I see this as completely orthogonal to the user experience of
actually using the user agent for group discussions, which is what I
was referring to and discussing in my previous email.

-- 
Lionel
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