# Paul Boddie [2018-06-12 21:53 +0200]: > I was surprised that Daniel's motion to document the FSFE's proprietary > dependencies, and to describe ways of eliminating them, was so strongly > opposed. Is it because admitting such dependencies is embarrassing? Or are > there other reasons why no-one else was willing to support it?
I was at the said GA meeting and we discussed a while about it. I'm quite sure Daniel received a more detailed explanation with the reasons stated but I don't find it in my archive any more, and my memories aren't complete any more. IIRC, the members brought up two main reasons: 1. Which scope should the list of proprietary software in organisation have? Only the OS and applications on our computers and servers? Or does it extend to the landline phones we use? The tax software of our external accountants? The software temporary freelancers like our designers use? Switches in datacenters our servers are located in? Some of the mentioned components will certainly be driven by non-free software. 2. Obviously, we try to use as much Free Software as possible, but unfortunately we cannot avoid all of it, especially on devices and in circumstances we don't a full access to. Does creating such a huge list benefit our work to promote Free Software, or would this create an enormous, ongoing burden for our volunteers and teams, demotivating them because they can't do much about many of those issues? Because of the unclear scope, and because most believed that the limited advantages of such a project don't outweigh the clear downsides, the GA decided to not adopt this motion. Disclaimer: all only from the top of my head and IMHO, not speaking for the whole GA. In my personal opinion, in the FSFE we should trust our people – those deeply caring about Free Software and often spending their free time – that they don't deliberately use proprietary software for essential parts of their FSFE work if there is any better solution. Imposing such a motion on them would create more frustration and distraction from our actual goal than it would bring any positive effect. If you think that we urgently need such a list of proprietary dependencies, please try to figure out a balanced definition and think of the work involved for different parts of the FSFE. Best, Max -- Max Mehl - Program Manager - Free Software Foundation Europe Contact & information: https://fsfe.org/about/mehl | @mxmehl Become a supporter to enable our work: https://fsfe.org/join _______________________________________________ Discussion mailing list Discussion@lists.fsfe.org https://lists.fsfe.org/mailman/listinfo/discussion This mailing list is covered by the FSFE's Code of Conduct. All participants are kindly asked to be excellent to each other: https://fsfe.org/about/codeofconduct