I understand the resistance to something new. One thing that is in the mix that I left out is that my network sits behind a firewall that I have no control over. So when I install this I have to work with our IT shop to poke the right holes in the Firewall for my remote programmers to access the repository. We use Juniper's VPN product for outside users to gain access. Maybe that is the reason my remote programmers didn't care for our other forays into this worked as the VPN process was a chore for them.
This is a new venture. the previous ventures were failed attempts and I never did get the repositories built properly and since I am the one that has to manage things and setup the way it has to be used I guess I added to the frustration as I didn't know how to do certain things. Anyway I will look at the other products as well as looking back at SVN. Thanks for the quick reply. John J. Boris, Sr. JEN-A-SyS Administrator Archdiocese of Philadelphia "Remember! That light at the end of the tunnel Just might be the headlight of an oncoming train!" >>> Brian Mathis <brian.mat...@gmail.com> 5/6/2010 10:26 AM >>> Subversion is one of the more straightforward systems out there, so if the programmers don't like it, get new programmers ;)? Any VCS is going to be an adjustment for programmers to use if they are not used to using it. It's very difficult to have one that "just works" without the programmers taking some action to check in/out code, so it will definitely be something they need to get used to. Bottom line is that VCS something that's so important that your organization will need to force it upon them if there is resistance. There are many tools for systems like subversion that make it easier to use (if they were objecting to using the command line). Take a look at tortoisesvn, which does a great job integrating svn into Windows, and there are often plugins for whatever development environment you are using. Do some googling. Also, there are now many new VCS systems out there, such as Mercurial, Git, etc... I *strongly* recommend that if you are starting new, take a look at them first. They are slightly more complex, but also provide many more benefits than SVN. There are also GUI frontends to them available. _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lopsa.org http://lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators http://lopsa.org/
