I do agree in general that there should be a transparent decision process yes

On 1/21/2025 18:38, Gabriel Roldan via Discuss wrote:
“My heart goes out to you” doesn’t seem Nazi at all to me. Although maybe little Adolf might have said that sometime, I don’t know really. I do hope though if you sometime see me trying to stop a taxi or calling a friend’s attention from a distance you won’t make the same assumption about my political preferen

Dear Gabriel, I do not know what nationality you are, mine is German and as such (with the dark history of my country in regards to the Nazis which undoubtedly distinctly influences everyone's upbringing and education there) I am extremely sensitive with this subject. Let me just say this much - many in my family died due to the Nazis...

Thus, while what the person said does not qualify as anything objectionable, the body language while speaking is 100% unmistakable. It’s the Roman greeting, which later became the Mussolini and Nazi salute, and he did it twice on the world stage. To be clear and summarize: It was not something "like" a Nazi salute, no - it was exactly that, twice, and on the world stage!

Actions must lead to consequences. There is zero doubt about what he did and about what he intentionally displayed on the world stage. The guy is not some idiot who does not know what he does. This was no harmless fun talk between friends in a local bar. There can be absolutely no foolish excuses. There must be no tolerance for this. Neo-Nazis have already celebrated what happened!

In Germany, you would be prosecuted and could go to jail for such actions—and rightfully so. As Germans, we learned the hard way (at least my ancestors did) when we lost our country. My German history teachers in school taught me, /“You cannot debate with a Nazi.”/ At that point, it is already too late.

Such things must be stopped at the very beginning, before it is too late. This cannot be tolerated. Full stop.

I fully support a decision to remove anything related to the person in question or companies he is involved with from being associated with any OSGeo content everywhere. I also support that the process of such a decision being transparent and orderly, though.

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Karsten Vennemann


El El mar, 21 ene 2025 a la(s) 6:59 p. m., Even Rouault via Discuss <discuss@lists.osgeo.org> escribió:


    Le 21/01/2025 à 22:24, Jody Garnett a écrit :
    > Yeah updating the website socials has a plan drawn up, but need
    > volunteers or budget.

    Jody, we are not going to find excuses by saying that removing the
    bird
    icon from www.osgeo.org <http://www.osgeo.org> in WP requires a
    budget, right...  I'm currently
    logged in in wordpress trying to find where it is. I probably
    don't have
    the appropriate rights to do so, but I'd assume this should be a 30
    second task for someone slightly knowledgeable...

    Even

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