If they seem mixed up, it's probably the fault of my too-quick writing.

I don't want to run VMs on cloud services. So that leads me in the direction of 
building services (eg some web site facing a customer extranet) directly on 
cloud components.

The "why build my own", instead of using some service, is simply that it's a 
requirement to have absolute admin and physical control (aka "everything must 
be inside the glass house"). However, I also need to look into hosted "private 
cloud" services; That might fly in terms of the admin/physical control 
requirement.

My most direct path seems to be to open an account with RackSpace (etc) and 
just start learning using their specific documentation for customers. I was 
just hoping to get some basic groundwork laid in my brain before punching the 
'buy' button.

-- Craig Constantine, http://constantine.name


On Jun 7, 2016, at 8:20 AM, Edward Ned Harvey (lopser) <[email protected]> 
wrote:

Hmm. You seem to be mixing up two different categories of products/services 
there.

On the one hand, there are services like EC2, in which they offer you VM's, 
which you can manage exactly like any other servers. You ssh into the box, 
they're up all the time (or up when you want them to be). You install and 
manage your own services - apache, mysql, etc.

On the other hand, why would you want to patch and maintain all that machinery 
when all you want is to serve some standard webpages, serve some standard 
storage or database, etc? So they offer the second category of product/service, 
which are those *services*. Click on create a database. Click on create a DNS 
zone. Etc.

So if you want to "build a web service, directly on the cloud tech," it sounds 
like you want the latter. And you should not expect to have anything deeper 
than super high level web interface or API access to that service. That's the 
point of the service.

If you want deeper access to the service, you probably have to use the former. 
Create some VM's and manage it yourself.

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