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On 2/10/2015 1:01 PM, Gilbert Wilson wrote: > Selling it as a membership based organization that has benefits is, > and always has been, based on the promise of some sort of undefined > future return. It’s a very hard sell. Relabelling membership as a > sponsorship moves expectations more in line with the structure of > an organization that has a working board. That is as may be, but it is inappropriate to simply say "we're changing our entire model around, and keeping your membership-org dues and calling you a sponsor." Maybe people don't want to be sponsors of such an organization. The organization can't just unilaterally change the relationship with the paid members in that fashion, not without incurring the option of refunding members' already-paid dues for anyone who doesn't want the conversion. Speaking personally for myself, I'm already a member of an "education-driven" non-profit org for sysadmins, called USENIX/LISA. I not only "don't want to sponsor" another, but I see sponsoring another as detrimental to the profession (because of dilution of resources as two different orgs work in the same already resource-light space). I would personally expect a refund on "unused" membership dues paid in my name, under that scenario. - -- I prefer to use encrypted mail. My public key fingerprint is FD6A 6990 F035 DE9E 3713 B4F1 661B 3AD6 D82A BBD0. You can download it at http://www.megacity.org/gpg_dballing.txt Learn how to encrypt your email with the E-Mail Self Defense Guide: https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/en/ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0 Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJU2lRkAAoJEGYbOtbYKrvQLF0P/3y6tt1hEiS+9oy7KkwFaUrT xkfp0Ch1bQzMDDEIw0sU9SGkzlgO8eWh/sFpOP2eUKjpDdOdLKZ1/9QlrWxzd8pR 2n4yP0RCmDehGCZuX5pRJpabAtSxqxauAdTETD8kb0HJX30he7PdO1ePMCihjhVX k+7LDjzOyUwQwPEuzHKO5hB4eQeP+2bEBTo4UMScS5kWOA3/tMOaULvdNbkN7TvM QNW4T8UQCYd7fzlPcsL0g2y4x8YgrHkZ7jBAIm1UdbJ7S6e1/JAUxmWB1Zt4PeDV ChPsnepPqjoeoBHaw6HkdUcHEi85+3GWrR9VE21pCBj6VNbxVdmO0/4dg74oUCot ZgQqzoI/2j4hC2LPoseQm4kcdFeT5WE6RmB3Uk6QAOgs/SlD3FxyFSHqJQCjrp/1 TUeR95+dkiUHE0RM6neazFFtnZBnyT65iVDZjdSvuaa+VMeN8/zMcC2wK9MZABqr J1HryG8D6Iofx2VGn5WAShdJHl/BcK2Gpq7ZUT8n+rTZgvqUozLWGluS8M5B9RCe +5JS0iJGZzeEhODaSj13+qY4f6CNSpjN7oXm06cyrriHwFXREko0F9B6q53gBEf6 YmBrY7Xk9/Oj7BtJqCAk02B1+XMG4F5mGRfDUEZni0hXh2l01YTmAua5RDRLPPGX sM03FJ4mjHl53dgatZdx =mfE6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.lopsa.org https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators http://lopsa.org/
