Thanks everyone for feedback, especially on pricing. This is a tough nut. I cover topics from Puppet fundamentals to Advanced Puppet class, whole lot of AWS, Python scripting (general sysadmin stuff as well as to cloud APIs), continuous build, provisioning test environment and deploying using Jenkins like tools, version control using git, etc. It brings SysAdmins closer to Development and Release Engineers closer to Operations.
Lecture sessions are just to get basic information communicated - most of the value comes from hours of helping people with their projects and coaching. If you take individual classes on only Puppet and AWS, that would cost more than $6K and neither of them show you how to put it all together. Once can self-study all of this, of course. Anyways, price is what market is willing to pay not what I *can* charge as someone else suggested. As a benchmark, there are 9-week Ruby bootcamps for $12K. Similar style - 1 hour lecture followed by 7-8 hours of project based coaching. All of the material is already online at various Ruby learning sites. Value comes from project based learning and coaching. Anyways, I understand it is not for everyone. Rajul On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 4:06 PM, Derek Monaghan <derek.monag...@gmail.com>wrote: > Rajul - > > You're offering 36 paid sessions, correct? You mention offering some > remote or online curriculum as a potential future option...Once that is > complete, why not donate a bit of that curriculum over to Ops School? I > think this would give some of your potential future customers a bit of a > preview while also giving back to the community as a whole. > > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 6:39 PM, David Frye <d...@dafr.us> wrote: > >> On 12/12/2013 03:02 PM, rajulv...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> Sunny: >>> >>> Your cynicism is well founded. Right now job market is not rational to >>> sysadmins - two similar resumes but one with DevOps slant gets >>> preference and pay scales are more like software engineering than >>> operations. That's what I am learning from sysadmins and hiring managers >>> I have talked to. >>> >> >> True enough. I'm an SA by background and have only the slightest >> knowledge of development and writing software. The market has been really >> rough for me recently. >> >> >> It is unfair but it is what it is. >>> >> >> And, IMNSHO, you are taking those interested in this to the cleaners >> *just* *because* *you* *can*. >> >> After a quick perusal of the Red Hat training page, your price is double >> that of the more expensive courses they offer. I balk at Red Hat's prices, >> and yours are just a huge turn off for me. >> >> I'm interested in what you would provide knowledge-wise, but not at the >> prices you are asking. Period. >> >> David >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Discuss mailing list >> Discuss@lists.lopsa.org >> https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss >> This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators >> http://lopsa.org/ >> > > > > -- > Derek Monaghan > derek.monag...@gmail.com > > _______________________________________________ > Discuss mailing list > Discuss@lists.lopsa.org > https://lists.lopsa.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/discuss > This list provided by the League of Professional System Administrators > http://lopsa.org/ > > -- Rajul Vora
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