Stephen Potter made the following keystrokes:
 >On 1/6/2011 7:27 PM, Robert Hajime Lanning wrote:
 >> Yes, but...
 >> For most people, the first thing that comes to mind is "bowling league".
 >> So, we have an up hill battle, just because of our name choice.
 >
 >So, the League of Women Voters, the League of Nations, the National 
 >Football League, the Animal Welfare League, Major League Baseball, 
 >League of Voters, and others have an uphill battle, just because of 
 >their name choice?
 >
 >-spp

I don't tie the League part to being the problem, but the acronym.
These other organizations didn't appear to spend time/effort on
coming up with an acronym to create their organization name.
You don't say neffel or emelbee, it's "N F L" or "M L B".
The League of Voters isn't called LOVE.

I'm somewhat amused by this thread and how there is now a consideration
of how the name LOPSA may be impacting the "Professional" image that
is desired.

When I hear LOPSA, the first thing that comes to mind is Lhasa Apso.
You'll find people with Lopsa Apso Puppies for sale..
As you start typing Lopsa into the google search, at lops you get
things like lopsided, lops, and lopsa opsa, not this group.
Yes just lopsa gets to this groups pages, but that's not a click choice.

The Lhasa Apso falls into the catagory of "Toy Dog".  While not
of the totally yippy dog variety, it's main purpose was to be a
sentinal that just made noise to alert the bigger dogs (mastif) and
monks of an intruder.  It really couldn't do much on it's own.
It's only about a foot tall and 15lbs in size.  While the dog
can be trained, it's also of the size and energy to be always
underfoot.  Personally I find toy dogs more an annoyance than
service a useful purpose.

Now if I start drawing some similarities here... (insert tongue in cheek)
Much like the dog, the name LOPSA was chosen because it was "cute".
If you watched "Big Bang" last night, note that Sheldon spent time
coming up with a name for their app that resulted in the acronym
being Sheldon.  While others were putting effort into doing things
useful to the project, Sheldon was spinning his wheels on less
productive fronts.

LOPSA is a small group.  It's growing, but it's not a big dog in
the market.  Many more people have heard of Usenix, SAGE, or even
UniForum than have heard of LOPSA.  Granted they have been around
for much longer, but the analogy is there. 

While the lhasa-apso's may have been important to the tibeten monks,
this really is a very small group in the overall scheme of things.
These dogs didn't make their mark across other "related" groups.
ie they are not used to alert of intruders in the vatican, etc.  
While significant to the small group of people, most didn't know
they existed or even care.

In an earlier posting in this thread, it was suggested that LOPSA
needs to find things that are not being done by these other
organizations to make it's mark.  Kind of like the toy dog finding
it's nitch to be useful. In the dog case, the nitch was to call
in the big dogs as needed.  LOPSA really doesn't want that image.

LhasaApso translates into "bearded dog".  Kind of like many of
the bearded admins out there.

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