You might not agree with the Gnome Shell design, but it was in fact carefully designed, and not intentionally made to have "bad ergonomics":
https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/Design On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 02:22:50PM -0400, Grant Mongardi wrote: > No, _this_ machine was Linux Mint (the one I updated). The one I use at > work is Debian Stretch (v9) which is using Cinnamon, by default. I have > used the DVD I originally downloaded and installed it on 2 other VMs at > work, and although there are some features I installed afterwards it is > basically the same (meaning all Cinnamon). I didn't manually select > Cinnamon at all, and in fact had to go look to see what it was exactly when > folks asked. > > It did turn out it was a notification. It was such a horrible sound I > assumed it was a bug. > > So just to be clear, I did actually do what I said I did. The installer > never prompted for which desktop I wanted to use, and in this particular > case the version of GNOME is just terrible. > > Just to be clear, here is just one of the many horrible ideas that they > have in this version.If I want to select a file for something, this is what > the window looks like: > https://i.imgur.com/u0tFOSW.png > > Who puts the buttons at the top? And worse, the "open" button is on one > side and the "cancel" is on the other. No other desktop does this that I'm > aware of. This is just truly bad ergonomics. > > Thanks all, but I'm done. I'm using my Mac to write this by the way until I > can get my desktop into a usable state. > > Grant M. > > > On Thu, Jun 4, 2020 at 2:02 PM Dan Ritter <d...@randomstring.org> wrote: > > > Grant Mongardi wrote: > > > Well, it was in fact Debian Stretch that used Cinnamon as the default > > > desktop. > > > > Actually... no. I checked. Stretch had GNOME 3.22 as the default. > > Google it for yourself, if you don't believe me. > > > > Somebody in this thread mentioned that you weren't actually > > using Stretch, you were using Mint, which is based on Debian > > but is not Debian. Mint had Cinnamon as its default back then. > > > > So. > > > > > That's sort of the point I was making. I don't know why you would > > > so dramatically change that experience. > > > > In the face of the above, I really don't think this point is > > valid. You changed distributions. > > > > > used. Hell, the computer makes a horrible screech noise everytime I put a > > > USB stick in, something I've never experienced before. > > > > Either there's something dramatically wrong with your hardware, > > or that's GNOME trying to be helpful. Go switch to your > > preferred desktop environment and see if it stops? Let us know > > if it doesn't. > > > > -dsr- _______________________________________________ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.blu.org http://lists.blu.org/mailman/listinfo/discuss