Awesome description, Jacob!  It’s been some time since I’ve had to be thinking 
at these lower levels, so I just need some oil on my mind.  I really appreciate 
the details from you and Jeff.  You both have saved me much time and confusion.

Regards

From: jacob <jacobgilb...@protonmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 9:43 AM
To: Jeff S <e070...@hotmail.com>
Cc: Jeff Long <willco...@gmail.com>; discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org
Subject: RE: Is PMT_NIL a Valid Dictionary?

Hi Jeff

Just to help clarify this a bit, PMT_NIL is a valid PMT object (not to be 
confused with null​)

PMT Dictionary type objects are nested pairs, and empty dictionary type objects 
(from pmt::make_dict()​ for example) are literally represented as a single 
PMT_NIL object under the hood, so this is specifically checked for and passes 
is_dict()​. As dictionary items are added, the base dictionary (or empty dict / 
PMT_NIL object) gets paired with added key-value pairs. Its not the best 
possible implementation, but has served GR for some time. PMTs are getting a 
modernization / overhaul soon.

The is_pdu() check should abstract that oddness a bit.

Jacob


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On Thursday, June 30th, 2022 at 7:12 AM, Jeff S 
<e070...@hotmail.com<mailto:e070...@hotmail.com>> wrote:


Cool.  I appreciate the clarification.  I had always taken an empty dictionary 
as a dictionary object without data, and a NIL as not an object, and the two 
were different.  This helps my PDU checking.

And I also found the update I missed which added is_pdu(), which simplifies 
some of my checking.  So, even better!

Thanks for the help,
Jeff

From: Jeff Long <willco...@gmail.com<mailto:willco...@gmail.com>>
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 8:02 AM
To: Jeff S <e070...@hotmail.com<mailto:e070...@hotmail.com>>
Cc: discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org<mailto:discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Is PMT_NIL a Valid Dictionary?

Yes, an empty dict is NIL, so that is (confusingly) valid.

On Thu, Jun 30, 2022 at 7:05 AM Jeff S 
<e070...@hotmail.com<mailto:e070...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
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I was writing a QA test and decided to try,

self.assertTrue(pmt.is_dict(pmt.PMT_NIL))

and it passes.  I was just wondering if pmt.PMT_NIL is considered a valid 
dictionary object, as opposed to,

my_dict = pmt.make_dict()
self.assertTrue(pmt.is_dict(my_dict))

Just trying to get a better understanding and couldn’t find an answer.

Regards,
Jeff

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