Hello Mr. Müller,

Thanks a lot for the reply! Everything is clear now.

Best regards,

Amrit Zoad


On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 1:21 PM Müller, Marcus (CEL) <muel...@kit.edu>
wrote:

> Hi Amrit,
>
> Well, usrp_spectrum_sense is a hopping observer, and GSM is a hopping
> system: your probability of intercept is rather low.
>
> Your probability of intercept is in fact, really zero, if your phone
> doesn't do GSM (2G), but uses 3G (UMTS) or 4G (LTE): these use other
> frequencies altogether. So, make sure your phone really does do GSM.
>
> You also don't even have to look at the GSM900 uplink at all:
> Telefonica (which Aldi resells) doesn't use that band at all.
>
> The spectrum sense application is really badly suited for this kind of
> task, as it hops: Instead, simply look at the whole band at once. A
> simple GNU Radio Companion flow graph connecting the USRP source (samp
> rate = total uplink bandwidth) to a Qt GUI Frequency Sink would make
> more sense.
>
> A word of secondary advice: If you're planning to experiment with 2G
> networks of your own, or doing something about the basic properties of
> microwave propagation and so on, observing spectrum of GSM is a
> worthwhile thing to do. Just be warned that it will be increasingly
> hard to find GSM signals "in the wild": T-Mobile will switch off GSM
> end-of-2020, and thus, up to then, all phones that can do both LTE and
> GSM will be instructed to use LTE whenever possible. Since there won't
> be much Machine-to-Machine GSM-only  (which I assume are the primary
> users that won't be able to switch) user equipment in cities, you'll
> see that increasingly many phones don't use GSM anymore at all – even
> if the network still exists; the calculation is very simple: The amount
> of spectrum necessary to let a single user do a GSM phone call is worth
> MB/s for a lot of LTE users. Thus, everybody not using GSM is desirable
> for network operators.
>
> Best regards,
> Marcus
>
> On Mon, 2018-06-18 at 11:25 +0200, Amrit Zoad wrote:
> > Greetings everyone,
> >
> > I hope everyone is having a good day.
> >
> > I have installed GNURadio 3.7 and I wanted to see the GSM signals of my
> phone (when I call someone) with the application "USRP Spectrum Scanner
> (FFT)". But, I was unable to see any fluctiations in the spectrum from 890
> MHz to 915 MHz & 1710 MHz to 1785 MHz. My location is in Germany and I own
> a sim card of Aldi Talk (MEDIONmobile).
> >
> > Then I tried with my phone's Bluetooth 5.0 and I could see the frequency
> hopping from 2.4 GHz to 2.44 GHz along with the light Wi-Fi signals in the
> spectrum.
> >
> > I have the Etttus Research USRP B210 with Bandwidth of 56 MHz (of the
> front-end filter) and thus I am setting the sampling rate to 40 MHz. The
> antenna also works from 850 MHz to 6.5 GHz. so no problem with that as well.
> >
> > What could be reason for me not able to see my phone's GSM signals in
> the spectrum scanner?
> > Your help would be very valuable.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Amrit Zoad
> > +49 177 8474550 <+49%20177%208474550>
> >
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Best regards,

Amrit Zoad
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