Hello Mehtap:

Sorry, but please ignore my previous e-mail; I may have misinterpreted a part 
of your e-mail and made poor explanations.


So, what I wanted say is that the advertised sampling rate of the boards is 
usually in terms of the complex sampling rate, not the sampling rate of the 
I-channel and sampling rate of the Q-channel added together (which is the 
definition that you are using). So, when they say 61.44MS/s, that is equal to 
61.44MHz of bandwidth, not half of it (which is the case for the real sampling 
rate). That is why those 61.44MS/s USB3 boards are actually sufficient for 
50MHz signal acquisition (in terms of the sampling rate - may still have other 
limitations).


With a 61.44MS/s board, you can get up to the effective complex sampling rate 
of 61.44MS/s. As long as your effective complex sampling rate (after the 
interpolation and decimation) is higher than or equal to 50MS/s (the bandwidth 
of the signal), you can still demodulate the signal.


Regards,

Kyeong Su Shin

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제목: RE: [Discuss-gnuradio] Fundamental question on Sampling rate


Hello mehtap:


You are probably thinking about the Nyquist sampling rate with one ADC(or DAC) 
case - but most of these radios (not all, but in most situations) are designed 
to do complex sampling, and in case of the complex sampling, the bandwidth 
(assuming perfect filtering) is equal to the sampling rate of the ADCs/DACs 
(not half of it).


So, you can actually get away with a USB3 board, if you prefer that. The boards 
advertised to have the sampling rate of 61.44MS/s will give you 61.44MHz of 
bandwidth, not half of it. In reality, the usable bandwidth is somewhat smaller 
than that, but 50MHz should not be a problem on most USB3 boards (maybe except 
BladeRF, which is a bit old now). Still, PCI-e boards may have other 
advantages, such as latency.


You need to use a fast PC or do some FPGA works if you want to  process the 
data in real-time. Also, the sampling rate of the boards are not always as 
flexible (can be adjusted, but in steps). So, please consider that when you are 
choosing your boards. (I think the transceivers on LimeSDR boards and USRP B2x0 
boards are pretty flexible, but I do not remember their exact limitations). You 
can still re-sample your data, but that's computationaly expensive when the 
data rate is high.


Regards,

Kyeong Su Shin

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제목: Re: [Discuss-gnuradio] Fundamental question on Sampling rate

Based on your calculations, I have decided to get a LIMESDR-PCIe.
The sampling rate will be 122,88 MSPS which will give  61.44 MHz I and 61.44 
MHz Q.
That will be enough to demodulate a 50 MHz wide QPSK modulated signal.
I am not sure if I can decimate the  122,88 MSPS by 2 and still being able to 
correctly demodulate the signal.
Any Ideas?

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