Thanks Derek,
No, I hadn't been power cycling between the runs - good point, obviously, I should have.

In terms of the 10 MHz and 1 pps references, in the configuration I was testing, I don't believe so in that I had the MIMO cable disconnected. My strategy was to have 2 USRPs with no MIMO - expecting little synchonisation. Then I was going to add the devices into the same container and connect the MIMO cable and expected things to improve and lastly, I was going to hand-code the SBX phase synch code.

In terms of the version of UHD, the fg shows: <<< Welcome to GNU Radio Companion 3.7.11.1 >>>

Thanks Marcus,
I will implement your way of measuring the running phase offset and also thanks for correcting my understanding of O/B GPS .


In terms of getting the devices in the container to be the best synch they can be, I presume for the device which has the GPS, for the clock source and time source, I would put O/B GPS for the device which has it and for the other, I would put MIMO cable for both but in terms of the 'Sync' field, where the options are PC Clock, Unknown PPS and Don't Sync, which option should I select?

                       Thanks again for your help.

                        Kind Regards,

                                 John


On 11/09/17 09:00, Derek Kozel wrote:
Hi John,

Are you power cycling the USRPs between tests or just rerunning the GRC flowgraph? Do you have shared 10 MHz and 1 PPS references? What version of UHD is printed in the output?

Thanks,
Derek

On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 1:50 AM, John Shields <sla1nte2...@gmail.com <mailto:sla1nte2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    Thanks for the feedback but I am not sure that I understand it.
    What I was hoping to do was step through the configurations with
    increasing levels of synchronisation and expecting to see same.

    Marcus' comment is correct and I have not, yet, put in the code
    which synchronises SBXs.

    I guess my basic point, from looking at previous post from others
    Marcus L included, was that UHD would somehow improve the
    synchronisation between two USRPs in the same container versus
    those two separately.

    When I executed the FG shown (separately) with the USRPs
    individually and then within a UHD container the results in terms
    of phase variation was the same. I had expected that, based on my
    understanding, the containerised USRPs would have behaved better.

    So, either my FG does not measure what I thought it should or
    there is little UHD-related benefit to having USRPs individually
    or in the 'domain' as MarcusL has mentioned previously. From my
    situation it doesn't hence the first question in the post:


                   Does my FG not measure what I claim to be wishing
    to measure?


    Kind Regards,

                John



    On 11/09/17 01:03, Marcus D. Leech wrote:
    On 09/10/2017 08:58 PM, Dan CaJacob wrote:

    I could be wrong, but I thought the SBX was one of the few
    daughter cards that starts with s known phase offset?

    Only if you ask it to do so, and only if it's sharing clock with
    its buddies...


    On Sun, Sep 10, 2017, 2:49 PM Fulcrum Associates
    <sla1nte2...@gmail.com <mailto:sla1nte2...@gmail.com>> wrote:

        Dear All,

                      I have a couple of USRPs connected, through  a
        strong
        attenuator to a signal generator (NWT4001). While the units
        have a MIMO
        option, I don't have that cable. (Option A) When I run the
        GRC as
        attached, I see too good a result to the extent that the
        differential
        Phi seems to range over +/- 5 degrees.


                      What I had hoped to prove to myself that two
        N200 with SBX
        would have a varying offset without MIMO cable, then I would
        connect the
        MIMO cable and move the USRPs into a multi-unit and enable
        GPSD O/B on
        the unit which has the feature and MIMO for one without
        (Option B) and
        that the phase differential would improve noticeably and be
        a variable
        constant, but it didn't.


                       If it had, but there still was a fixed phase
        offset which
        varied each time it was setup (which is what I would expect
        under B)
        then I would hand-code the SBX stream initialisation code to
        remove the
        offset.


                       Does my FG not measure what I claim to be
        wishing to
        measure?

                       If it does measure it correctly, why do my
        expectations
        of options A and B leading to a different (though improved)
        situation
        not eventuate?


                       Kind Regards,


                                      John

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