Hi Soumaya,

could you please keep the mailing list in the loop?

Well, on USB2, the maximum sampling rate is, if I remember correctly,
somewhere between 8 MS/s and 10 MS/s. Maybe the raspberry Pi isn't the
optimal platform for broadband signal observation...

$((2**16)) gets evaluated by your shell to the value of 2¹⁶ .

Best regards,

Marcus


On 01/16/2017 12:48 PM, Soumaya el barrak wrote:

> Dear Marcus,
>
>
> Thank you again for your explanations, but I installed Gnuradio on a
> Raspberry pi 3, model B board, so the usb ports are USB2 not 3. That’s
> why I cannot use a high sample rate. I got an error because of the USB
> bandwidth limitations. If you can guide me to the right parameters to
> choose with this kind of host machine?
>
> Also, Can you please explain for me what does this parameter refer to
> : $((2**16))
>
>
> The script which I use is this one:
>
> https://github.com/gnuradio/gnuradio/blob/master/gruhd/examples/python/usrp_spectrum_sense.py.
>  
>
>
> Thank you in advance
>
> Kind Regards
>
> Soumaya
>
>
> 2017-01-16 12:28 GMT+01:00 Marcus Müller <marcus.muel...@ettus.com
> <mailto:marcus.muel...@ettus.com>>:
>
>     Hi Soumaya,
>
>     while tuning, there will simply be transients, mostly of
>     oscillator energy leaking into the receiver. You cannot use the
>     data that you get while tuning.
>
>     You might want to define "strange power values"; 2.4 GHz is an ISM
>     band, so a lot of traffic is to be expected there, and that
>     traffic is also probably very bursty, so that your observed values
>     might temporarily vary a lot, since your observation time is much
>     longer than the bursts in e.g. WiFi, your observed power is
>     basically the product of number of burst, burst energy of the
>     individual transmitter, and path loss between your receiver and
>     the transmitter.
>
>     Still, why are you using such small sampling rates as 8 MS/s? With
>     a good USB3 controller and a reasonably fast computer, you should
>     easily be able to do 40 MS/s with the usrp_spectrum_sense program.
>     In fact, on my throttled thinkpad X240, I'm currently doing
>
>     ./usrp_spectrum_sense.py -s 40e6 -g 76 -F $((2**16)) 2.4e9 2.5e9
>
>     and it works just fine.
>
>     Best regards,
>
>     Marcus
>
>     On 01/16/2017 10:32 AM, Soumaya el barrak wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Marcus,
>>
>>
>>     Thank you so much for your reply, I followed your
>>     recommendations, I used a sample-rate of 8MS/s and FFT-size 1024
>>     and I kept the tune-delay and dwell-delay at 0.25 s. But I still
>>     receive some strange power values while scanning the 2.4 GHz band.
>>
>>
>>     I also obtained high power picks while tuning from one center
>>     frequency to another. Could you please explain for me where I am
>>     mistaken? And what is the explanation of those power picks?
>>
>>
>>     Best..
>>
>>     Soumaya
>>
>>
>>     2017-01-13 14:46 GMT+01:00 Marcus Müller
>>     <marcus.muel...@ettus.com <mailto:marcus.muel...@ettus.com>>:
>>
>>         Hi Soumaya,
>>
>>         the B200 tunes slower and might need up to half a second when
>>         tuning further.
>>
>>         You should hence minimize the amount of tuning, and instead
>>         of 4MS/s use a higher rate, a larger FFT size, and tune less
>>         often.
>>
>>         The power normalization is truly, 100%, arbitrary. Since
>>         these dB are all "relative to digital 1", they only have
>>         linear relation with real-world powers.
>>
>>
>>         Best regards,
>>
>>         Marcus
>>
>>
>>         On 01/13/2017 11:40 AM, Soumaya el barrak wrote:
>>>         Dear all,
>>>
>>>         I am working with USRP B200 for spectrum sensing, I want to
>>>         scan the band from 2.4 to 2.5 Ghz, I use fft size 256, and
>>>         sample_rate 4M, and tune _delay 0,001s. I am not sure if the
>>>         parameters are correctely chosen because when I try to scan
>>>         another band without wireless activities, I still receive
>>>         hight power levels. Can anyone has any idea about where I am
>>>         mistaken ? 
>>>
>>>         Also, in the formula used to calculate the PSD : 
>>>
>>>          Power_dB = 10*math.log10(m.data[i_bin]/tb.usrp_rate); 
>>>
>>>         Normally it is the magnitude squared averaged , I want to
>>>         know why it is averaged by the usrp_rate ?  
>>>
>>>
>>>         Thank you in advance !
>>>
>>>         Soumaya  
>>>
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>>
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>>
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> *EL BARRAK Soumaya*
>
> *Telecommunication & Networking Engineer / Phd Student*
>
> *Innovative Technologies Laboratory*
>
> *National School of Applied Sciences of Tangier - (ENSA Tanger)*
>
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