On 04/28/2016 01:42 PM, West, Nathan wrote:

On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 1:31 PM, Lamar Owen <lo...@pari.edu <mailto:lo...@pari.edu>> wrote:

    Does anyone know of any fixes since 3.7.5 that might be considered
    'can't avoid?'


Personal opinion incoming:
Normally I strongly advocate for working off of the latest release possible, but this is my exception. Two thoughts: 1) If you don't know of a good reason to move from 3.7.5, why are you pressuring an entire distribution to go against their policy?

You should read the bug report at https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1329752 and pay close attention to who closed it and for what reason. Yes, I closed my own bug, and closed it as WONTFIX, until I could gather data on whether the RFE was even useful or not. If there are no 'can't avoid' fixes, then I won't file another RFE, simple as that (I can build my own packages should I care to do so.....).

This is not my first rodeo, figuratively speaking. I'm not trying to pressure anyone.

2) A major selling point (I think) of RHEL and by extension Fedora is the loooong stable cycle. If they upgrade to latest versions just because they are shinier then that goes against the distro philosophy. I think it makes more sense to either upgrade to the latest release of the distribution or build from source
I've used CentOS a long time (3.x days, and I still have a 2.1 install running). I know about the reasons why to use such things. And I know that there are cases where upgrades that break ABI (especially at the point in the cycle where 7.x is right now) aren't necessarily a problem, Firefox ESR for instance, which has gone several versions since the upstream RHEL 7 release (heh, Firefox 38 ESR is even the published version for EL6, and that started way earlier). It is all dependent upon 'can't avoid' and that was the question I asked.

I'm gathering information, not trying to pressure anyone to do anything.

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