On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Ben Hilburn <b...@ettus.com> wrote:

> Tom - maybe you can correct me if I'm wrong, here?
>
> I think you are asking about the changes Tom made to the general loop
> formula, the details of which you can find here:
>
> http://www.trondeau.com/blog/2011/8/13/control-loop-gain-values.html
>
> Cheers,
> Ben
>

Ben, yep, that should explain it a bit better.

Shashank, also, the theta value is a constant rotation for the
constellation. If your QPSK symbols, say, are located at (+/-1) + j(+/-1),
the rotation is 45 degrees (I think that's how the default slicing works)
as described in the block's documentation:

 theta any constant phase rotation from the real axis of the constellation

Tom





> On Thu, Feb 2, 2012 at 7:14 AM, shashank gaur <shashankg...@ieee.org>wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> First of all Thank you very much for your support
>> I was able to run the program on two different USRP and it was
>> successful.
>>
>> But still I have some new problems. Actually I am doing my masters
>> project on gnuradio and usrp.
>> I am trying to make a BPSK transmitter and receiver(Attached GRC Files),
>> then use it further in my project. My mentor suggested to use MPSK Receiver
>> for the receiver part but I am not sure about Loop Bandwidth and Theta as
>> the solution my mentor gave is for the old version of gnuradio. Can you
>> help me with understanding these parameters?
>> Right now when I start my receiver program on a usrp the number plot
>> varies around 0.5 (which I guess is normal when there is no transmission)
>> but when I start transmitter the value goes high to 0.6 or 0.7 (It should
>> be lower than 0.3).
>> I am using following parameters for the same
>>
>> M = 2 for BPSK
>>
>> Theta = 0 (I was not sure about this so I put it 0)
>>
>> Loop Bandwidth= ????? (I dont knw what to put here)
>>
>> Min Freq = -0.05
>>
>> Max Freq = 0.05
>>
>> Mu = 0.5
>>
>> Gain Mu = 0.001
>>
>> Omega = 8
>>
>> Gain Omega = 0.000001
>>
>> Omega Relative Limit = 0.0001
>> Also I tried to use Costas loop and Clock Recovery MM with same
>> parameters but they are also not working.
>> It would be great help if anyone can help me understand these parameters.
>>
>> Shashank Gaur
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:38 PM, shashank gaur <shashankg...@ieee.org>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all
>>> Thank you very much for such prompt response.
>>>
>>> @Marcus: I understand the problem now and will try to implement the Rx
>>> and Tx on different USRP on Monday. The weeekend has already started here
>>> in France.
>>> @Andrew: I will also get back with exact result of the commands but what
>>> I remember for uhd_find_devices the result was the device address that is
>>> 4d9de875 and in uhd_usrp_probe it detected all the available RX and Tx (it
>>> has Flex900).
>>> Apologies for the delay but cannot access the usrp before Monday. The
>>> mentor doesnt allow me to have usrp at home. Hope you understand
>>> Thanks again for your time
>>>
>>> shashank gaur
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:18 PM, Marcus D. Leech <mle...@ripnet.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> **
>>>>  On 27/01/12 03:00 PM, Andrew Davis wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Type " uhd_find_devices " into console, then " uhd_usrp_probe " then
>>>> give us the results, and the code for the program you're trying to run.
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 9:39 AM, shashank gaur 
>>>> <shashankg...@ieee.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello
>>>>>
>>>>> I am simply trying to build a transmitter and receiver for bpsk
>>>>> modulation and demodulation using mpsk receiver at receiving end. I am
>>>>> using USRP1 (Flex900 Daughter boards) with Gnuradio Companion 3.5.0rc0 on
>>>>> Ubuntu 10.10.
>>>>>
>>>>> When I run either (trransmitter or receiver) of any grc applications
>>>>> first the grc executes it successfully and when I run other the grc gives
>>>>> following error.
>>>>> linux; GNU C++ version 4.4.5; Boost_104200; UHD_003.003.001-8ff8f20
>>>>>
>>>>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>>>>   File "/home/sunny/Examples/top_block.py", line 105, in <module>
>>>>>     tb = top_block()
>>>>>   File "/home/sunny/Examples/top_block.py", line 40, in __init__
>>>>>     num_channels=1,
>>>>>   File
>>>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/gnuradio/uhd/__init__.py", line 
>>>>> 93,
>>>>> in constructor_interceptor
>>>>>     return old_constructor(*args, **kwargs)
>>>>>   File
>>>>> "/usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/gnuradio/uhd/uhd_swig.py", line
>>>>> 2003, in usrp_sink
>>>>>     return _uhd_swig.usrp_sink(*args, **kwargs)
>>>>> RuntimeError: LookupError: KeyError: No devices found for ----->
>>>>> Device Address:
>>>>>     serial: 4d9de875
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it has something to do with USRP UHD Source/Sink block
>>>>> parameters.
>>>>> Either the grc is not able to recognize the daughter board or there is
>>>>> problem with hardware. may be I am wrong.
>>>>> Please help me to recognize the error.
>>>>> Thank you very much for your time
>>>>> Shashank Gaur
>>>>>
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>>>> Just so we're clear here.  If you're trying to run your RX and TX as
>>>> two separate processes, against the
>>>>   same USRP1, that won't work.    You'll need to have two independant
>>>> USRP1s, or collapse your RX and
>>>>   TX into a single combined program--only one process can have a
>>>> "handle" against each USRP1 at a time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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