Hi,

I am trying to decode CPM signal according to your email but I have problem
with understanding some things. What I'd like to do is to decode some kind
of I/Q samples according to following scenario:
- decimation of symbol rate N-times
- decoding I/Q symbols according to FSM file and provided constellation

For VA I am using:
 dimensionality = 1
 va =
trellis.viterbi_combined_cb(f,K,0,-1,dimensionality,constellation,trellis.TRELLIS_EUCLIDEAN)

However the results are not as expected to be. My guess is that something
might be wrong with FSM file - I've looked through *.fsm files example and
seems that table OS (output symbols) is generated somehow. What I know about
my state machine is:
- there is S unique states
- each state can have transition to one of I states
- each input symbol is equal to IB bits
- transition from state S(i-1) to S(i) corresponds to O output symbols
- each output symbol is written on OB bits

So in general - I have defined NS table. I thought that OS table in *.fsm
file is just table that tells: transition from state S(a) to state S(b) is
equal to output symbol O(ab) but it seems that I'm wrong. Is there any easy
way to generate OS table in *.fsm file? I have seen fsm constructor that
generates these values according to (n,k) and G - is that only way to
generate OS table?

Regards,

On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 11:23 PM, Achilleas Anastasopoulos <anas...@umich.edu
> wrote:

> Nick,
>
> there is no change required in the modules that perform viterbi decoding
> in order to implement either MLSD in ISI or (coherent) GMSK demod.
> The whole idea around gr-trellis was to disentangle the trellis aspect
> of a modulation scheme from the details of the modulation/channel.
>
> So, if you want to implement general (coherent) CPM demodulation, all
> you have to do is to represent the CPM signal as a FSM followed by a
> memoryless modulator. Look up the paper by
> Bixio Rimoldi: A decomposition approach to CPM, or take a look at my
> notes on this at
> http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~anastas/docs/cpm.pdf<http://www.eecs.umich.edu/%7Eanastas/docs/cpm.pdf>
>
> You will only need to write an additional
> constructor for the fsm class that takes the CPM parameters and produces
> the appropriate FSM. Similarly, you'll need to write a piece of code
> that takes the incoming waveform and does the metrics calculations
> (eithar as a separate block as in trellis-metrics or inside the viterbi
> block as in trellis-viterbi-combined).
>
> If you want to work on this general problem for a generic CPM modulation
> I can help you.
>
> Adding ISI to this is a piece of cake: you need to combine the two
> trellises into either a combined trellis or to use hard/soft decisions
> from one to feed the other detector.
>
>
> Achilleas
>
>
> -------------------
> Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 02:43:01 +0000
> From: Nick Foster <bistro...@hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Discuss-gnuradio] extending gr-trellis to perform Viterbi
>        MLSD on GMSK
> To: gnuradio <discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org>
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>
> Hi all,
>
> I've spent a few days familiarizing myself with gr-trellis as best as I
> can, and I'm interested in extending the gr-trellis module to handle
> Viterbi equalization of ISI channels for GMSK demodulation. I saw Toby
> Oliver's thread in Sept. '06
> (http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss-gnuradio@gnu.org/msg05615.html)
> discussing a possible modification with Achilleas Anastasopoulos but
> never saw anything checked in as a result. I'm just looking to use the
> trellis code to demodulate low-BT GMSK in a more optimal way than the
> current Gnuradio implementation, and I have similar questions to Toby's:
>
> * How should I go about modifying make_isi_lookup() to add support for
> two-dimensional modulations? What format is trellis expecting?
>
> * I see the test_viterbi_equalization1.py file, which appears to do MLSD
> on an ISI channel for 4-PAM (and other one-dimensional modulations). Am
> I correct that if make_isi_lookup() is modified to support quadrature
> modulations, simply changing the modulation type in this example would
> be enough to make it work? I guess I'm asking more specifically if
> trellis.viterbi_combined_X will support an ISI lookup table for PSK
> modulations without modification.
>
> * Is there a good reason I should avoid tackling this problem? I'd hate
> to be duplicating someone else's work in this area, or barking up the
> wrong tree.
>
> For further information, I've written a packet-based AIS decoder for
> Gnuradio, and I'm disappointed at the quality of the data coming out of
> the GMSK demodulator. It's 9600 symbols per second @ BT=0.3, so there's
> enough ISI that I think MLSD would provide significant reduction in
> observed BER. Besides, it seems like it would be a useful capability to
> have added to Gnuradio. Any other tips anyone has that might help me in
> doing this would certainly be welcome!
>
> Nick
>
>
>
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