I'm recording and replaying interleaved shorts @ 8Msps.. how is the
benchmarking software called? I also have noticed a diffference between my
main, old gnuradio installation and a fresh one just done from trunk on
another disk... the fisrt is all right with transmissions up to 4 MHz the
second stops at 2MHz, (using the same scripts of mine on both
installations): when, on the fresh installation, I ask for 4MHz I can hear
only noise being sent out (I think this is a different problem than the slow
flow).. I'm a bit confused...

thanks

vincenzo

2007/9/7, Firas abbas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> Hi Vincenzo,
>
> Are you recording the 8Msps complex or short ?. In recording, I always
> prefer the interleaved complex short, because the real coming samples from
> the USRP across the USB is 16 bit short. The conversion to float (32 bit)
> complex is being done by software in the PC and thus adds no new information
> and does not enhance the data. It only complicate file storage process. If
> converting to short does not solve your problem, try to record and play
> smaller bandwidth like 6.4MHz (decimation 10) or  less.  Also test your
> PC USB 2 speed by using the benchmark software found the gnuradio truck.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Firas
>
> *Vincenzo Pellegrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> hi Firas, thanks for help!
>
> i'm doing pretty much everything you suggested, and in fact, really!!, I
> do think that my HD is doing a very good work.
>
> nevertheless I keep having the same problem,
> this is what I also posted to the list:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I finally have a 7200rpm disk that does keep up very well with 32MBps
> and, I guess, even much more..
>
> is then this assumption correct?
>
> 8Msps with gr_complex data type ==> 8e6*8bytes per sample = 64 MB/s
>
> 8Msps with interleaved shorts ==> 8e6*2bytes per int * 2channels = 32
> MB/s
>
> I'm sure now that my drive can keep up with recording and replaying the
> 32 MB/s
> and I guess that even 64 with my new, xfs formatted clean disk is fine
>
> my problem is that in both cases ( both using complex and interleaved
> shorts)
>
> If I work with a 4 MHz bandwidth everything looks allright.
> I can record and replay a 4 MHz fm band and perfectly listen to the
> station at the center of it when sending it back to the receiver
>
> but
>
> when I try to go 8 MHz I can hear a noisy, extremely weak replica of my
> signal, which is SLOW... like an old cassette player with flat batteries
>
> and this is consistent with the fact that a file meant to last 10.717
> secs @ 32MB/s, when played with usrp_interp= 16 (8MHz Bandwidth)
> lasts MORE than 13 secs, while if played with usrp_interp=32 (4MHz),
> it lasts exactly the double of the correct value ie: 10.717*2=21.434
>
> has this ever happened to anybody.. am I making huge mistakes that I
> havent discovered yet?
>
> thanks
>
> vincenzo
>
>
> On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 13:15 -0700, Firas abbas wrote:
> > Hi Vincenzo,
> >
> > Sorry for this delay, but I didn't saw your email in the mailing list
> > which I usually check. To solve your problem do :
> >
> > 1) Buy SATA II harddisk drive
> > 2) Put Linux in ext3 partition
> > 3) Create a small Ext2 partition for your recordings (about
> > 4Gbyte)
> > 4) Whenever you want to record or replay data use this ext2 partition
> > 5) When you want to record a new file, move the old file from the Ext2
> > partition to another partition Ext3. Always keep in mind that the ext2
> > partition should be totally empty before any new recording. Also don't
> > forget to empty the Trash after each file deletion from the Ext2
> > partition.
> >
> > I hope I made it clear. For more information send me an email.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Firas
> >
> >
> > Vincenzo Pellegrini wrote:
> > On Mon, 2007-09-03 at 20:04 -0700, Eng. Firas wrote:
> > > Hi Vincenzo,
> > >
> > >
> > > 1) What is your recording system (PC specifications)?.
> > > 2) How fast your hard drive can read/write data? because
> > working with 8MHz
> > > means that your hard drive must be able to sustain writing
> > 32MByte/sec?
> > > 3) Do you use ext2 or ext3 ? Ext2 is very efficient in
> > writing.
> > > 4) Are you recording complex or interleaved Short 8 MHz
> > samples?
> > >
> > > Firas
> >
> > first of all thanks for listening Firas,
> > I'm using a sempron 3000+, 512MiB of Ram, and the HD is a IDE
> > with ext3,
> > and yes, 32MB/s is at is nominal limit... I'm using complex
> > samples..
> >
> > to bypass the "slow hd problem" before buying a new one, I was
> > just
> > storing a very few secs of my sample stream to the ram before
> > sending it
> > out..
> >
> > in the next stage of my work I will need an hd which is very
> > fast in
> > reading a 32MB/s complex sample stream... what would you
> > suggest for the
> > kind of HD and for the filesystem?
> > >
> > >
> > > Vincenzo Pellegrini wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Matt,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tonight
> > > > I have been recording slices of commercial FM spectrum,
> > all centered
> > > > right where a good station transmits,
> > > >
> > > > the first slice was 300Khz wide,
> > > > the second was 2MHz
> > > > the third was 4MHz
> > > >
> > > > then I sent all these signals to my Hifi FM receiver via
> > the basicTX...
> > > > all went fine and I could hear a good stereo sound from my
> > recordings..
> > > >
> > > > then I tried my nightmare: the 8MHz slice of spectrum....
> > > > the output was extremely weak but you could easily tell
> > from what you
> > > > could hear that the samples were not being sent out at
> > 8Msps: the very
> > > > poor audio was also "slow" as it happens when you set the
> > interpolation
> > > > rate too high, compared to the sample rate your samples
> > were taken at...
> > > > well, this is not just some attenuation next to the
> > shoulder of my ofdm
> > > > signal.. this is the whole signal .. gone..
> > > >
> > > > So, I'm really not asking you, Matt, to solve a problem
> > which is my duty
> > > > to solve...and don't even want to bother the whole list
> > with this
> > > > stuff...
> > > >
> > > > ...but please say it loud, say it clear: "vincenzo, you've
> > made very big
> > > > mistakes, because the USRP really can transmit an 8MHz
> > wide signal
> > > > without distorting it significantly, I've tested it"...
> > > >
> > > > ..so even if this means that I still got much to learn,
> > and much to work
> > > > to find out where I'm doing wrong...
> > > >
> > > > ...well, it would be much better than being forced to give
> > up what I'm
> > > > working upon..
> > > >
> > > > please...
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > > vincenzo
> > > >
> > > > PS.
> > > > I'm using default FPGA configuration...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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-- 
Vincenzo Pellegrini
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