On Thursday, 11 September 2025 at 12:07:35 UTC, Serg Gini wrote:
On Wednesday, 10 September 2025 at 03:46:37 UTC, felixfxu wrote:
On Monday, 8 September 2025 at 20:10:52 UTC, Sergey wrote:
being focused on required important tasks = complicated

I don't quite understand the item above. What's dlang's `"required important tasks"` now?

This one actually overlapping a lot with "volunteer based development"
Some tasks need to be done, but they are boring and not-sexy.
Nobody want to deal with them.

So you can't ask volunteer to concentrate on tasks they don't want to do. Sometimes core devs are doing things they just like. And it is ok from general point of view.

It is just not how "job" is working, right? You don't say to your boss "nah.. I don't like this task - I'm not gonna do this". But in volunteer based development - there is no "boss" and there is no "job".

Another point that is going into this bucket is kinda lack of understanding of what is "important". There is no plans (at least clearly written and widely available).

Which is again partially based on underpower volunteer team

This is one of my bigger gripes about the way the DLF handles things. What's the point of things like a borrow checker, fancy DFAs for move semantics, or Phobos v3, if the language doesn't even have a debugger for every platform that is able to properly display its native types?

It's because nobody wants to spend their time peering over DWARF info and then writing plugins for GDB, WinDBG and LLDB (or even just one of them!). IMO, they should have a system where the whole community gets to vote on one tooling/bug proposal every so often, and then the DLF *has* to work on that alongside whatever else they do.

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