Genadi,

The advantage of the properties box as it is now it is optional to shut
down the properties box at all.  If you call it up, you can set the
properties, pick apply, dbl lmb a new entity and the properties are then
applicable for the new entity.  So you can save some mouse picks when you
have a number of entities and properties to change.  You do not have to hit
close until you are done. You can leave the properties box open and it does
not affect Diagramming.

I hear that being able to select multiple entities and change their
properties altogether is coming (good when you want all the properties to
be alike among the group).  Do not trust rumors however.




On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Genadi Saltikov <carmaged...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello Steve!
> Apologies for not sharing what I found, I thought everyone on the list
> knows :)
> Basically, after dissecting the original .DIA file Hans linked me to, I
> figured out that the relationships like 1:1, 1:N etc, were defined as
> properties of the RELATIONSHIP objects!
>
> In my opinion, this is far from trivial, especially that it is not
> explained in the documentation.
>
> What I meant about cardinality, I have drawn in red color in the following
> picture, so you can see it without misunderstanding what I mean.
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/9asujpcd6o50nve/2013-05-06%2023.43.38.png
> Please note how this relationship relates to 3 entities - currently in
> Dia, I have not found a way to set more than 2.
>
>
> Finally a small (really small!) thing: When I double click an object to
> open its properties (usually only to write its name for start), it would
> make sense that hitting 'Enter' key, would press ok and close the
> properties window, without switching hand to mouse to do it - it will
> streamline the initial design phase :)
>
>
> I hope I've been clear, and provided some constructive ideas/questions :)
>
>
> Genadi.
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 11:01 PM, Steve Litt <sl...@troubleshooters.com>wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 6 May 2013 00:22:12 +0300
>> Genadi Saltikov <carmaged...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks for the desire to help Alejandro, but this is missing the
>> > point, I specifically wanted ER Diagrams like here:
>> > http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/920/20130505111142.jpg
>>
>> I must be missing something. I do diagrams like that all the time. I
>> didn't understand your original question, nor the responses of most of
>> the people, but it sounds to me like you want lines, either straight or
>> "jaggie" between the boxes, circles, etc. Those are connectors, and
>> there's an implied connection point in the center of every box,
>> circle,  etc.
>>
>> >
>> > Thankfully, Hans has also replied to me giving me a link to the
>> > original diagram I missed, and from this I figured out how it works!
>> > Thanks Hans! :)
>>
>> So please share. What was the hangup,  and how did you get around it?
>>
>> >
>> > Only thing that might be missing (and not sure yet whether it is
>> > needed, will see later) - is the capability to assign more than just
>> > left or right "Cardinality", as you call it - what if I want to
>> > assign a relationship to more than two Cardinalities?
>>
>> Do you mean which way the arrows go on the lines, or are you talking
>> about something else, and if so, what?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> SteveT
>>
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