On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 11:41 AM, Marshall Feldman <ma...@uri.edu> wrote: > Thanks so much to Andrey and Alejandro. Now I have a much better > understanding of Dia and how to do what I'm trying. >
No worries. Dia is a great and powerful tool and many times overlooked. > So I only have one further comment: > [...] Note to co-listers: Before anyone complains about this being OT I would like to point out that Dia being an Open Source project, it's members are usually aware of the role that Open Source plays as a good example of the paradigm-shifts that our current socio-economic and political systems need to make to confront an already unsustainable system. Likewise, may Open Source enthusiasts are also very much aware of the delicate situation of the status quo, so it is my view that the issue at hand is very much on topic for this and any Open Source project. > > Date: Wed, 24 Apr 2013 18:47:33 -0400 > From: Alejandro Imass <aim...@yabarana.com > > ... > > Just a though: if centrals banks are able to create inorganic money > that is not backed up by anything more than their word and if the > private banks can make up money out of thin air whilst guaranteeing > only 10% in deposits, and the ever increasing debt is solved by adding > more debt, then there are no need for any sort of charts to explain > how it works because it's fundamentally broken. The chart should be a > big box with an X in the middle the label "Flawed" and a start-over > line pointing to a box called Hayek! > > One would hope that simple things would be obvious: that even a simple model > of money in the economy reveals certain truths, that banks sometimes make > money "out of thin air," or that the system is "broken" (or at least does > not work the way most would want it to work). But then sometimes even the > smartest folks do not see the obvious, particularly when it is in a > discipline dominated by ideology masquerading as science. > Well put. Nevertheless I disagree that the smartest folks don't see the obvious but more so that they are forced (or willing?) to make up science to cover up for a very obvious and grotesque global ponzi scheme. It's not like this situation is any secret, and a lot of people knew this was going to happen at least 200 years ago. Other, more contemporary folks have regretted this situation even before Mr. Greenspan was born, starting with the signer of the Fed Act Mr. Woodrow Wilson himself. Although there is some controversy around the quotes "I am a most unhappy man..." he did officially state the following in "The New Freedom: A Call for the Emancipation of the Generous Energies of a People" (New York and Garden City: Doubleday, Page & Company, 1913): "A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is privately concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our activities are in the hands of a few men ... We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated, governments in the civilized world—no longer a government by free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and the duress of small groups of dominant men." [...] "Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it." And Mr. Wilson and other people in power well aware of the dangers of handing off the real power to the financial establishment. Most notably Thomas Jefferson was very public about this almost 200 years ago: "I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." [...] "The system of banking we have both equally and ever reprobated . I contemplate it as a blot left in all our constitutions, which, if not covered, will end in their destruction, which is already hit by the gamblers in corruption, and is sweeping away in its progress the fortunes and morals of our citizens." Thomas Jefferson, 1816 Therefore, I find it hard to believe that smart men, especially those in power are unaware of the fundamental problems of the system. Best, -- Alejandro Imass > Thanks again for all your help. > > MF > _______________________________________________ dia-list mailing list dia-list@gnome.org https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dia-list FAQ at http://live.gnome.org/Dia/Faq Main page at http://live.gnome.org/Dia
