I am reading this with my left hand placed how I seem to do it without
thinking. (I am sure this goes back more than ten years to my ProE days)  My
ring finger is on the tilde just a small distance from the Esc and my thumb
is on the space bar.  If I was editing a series of text boxes I wouldn't
have to give moments thought if the space called repeated use of the text
tool and the Esc completed the editing with retention of the text present at
the time.

I am grateful to know that the space bar toggles between modify and the
prior function.  That is handy but I haven't made it part of muscle memory
yet.  In AutoCAD or ProE or both I can't recall exactly, the space would
repeat the last action.  That was addictive.  The space function in Dia is
close to that, but takes a little more thought on my part because of past
habits.

It is vary nice to have the opportunity to comb through these ergonomic
subtleties.

Mike

On 9/28/07, Sameer Sahasrabuddhe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 9/28/07, Lars Clausen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I have no problem with having F2 be one way to enter text edit mode.  My
> > worry about "second click" is that it will be problematic to
> > double-click for properties without accidentally entering text mode all
> > the time, or vice-versa.
>
> Yeah ... one can just have an entry in the context menu for "Edit
> Text" and leave it at that ... it depends on whether a gesture
> involving a mouse click is painfully important for users who already
> expect such an interaction.
>
> >  Hmm... Gnome HIG says that Alt-Enter should be
> > the default shortcut for Properties.  F2 is supposed to be Rename which
> > works fine in some cases, when the text is a name, but a pure text
> > object doesn't have a name as such.  "Enter" or "Space" could also both
> > reasonably be used for entering text mode, since they don't conflict
> > with anything else.  If "Alt-Enter" is Properties, then "Enter" would be
> > fairly logical for editing.  "Enter" text and such... I think I'd rather
> > have that listed in the menu than F2.
>
> The thing to consider here is that F2 is close to the left hand, which
> leaves the right hand still on the mouse. That is why I had hijacked
> Michael's post where he says heavy users of CAD tools are used to
> finding their left hand on the keyboard. I had said that in a previous
> iteration of this discussion too ... having the shortcut on the left
> hand is at least useful to some subset of users ... Enter doesn't have
> that plus point on its side.
>
> Also, quoting the Gnome HIG:
>
>   Rename  F2  Switch the selected item's label into edit mode,
>                        allowing user to type in a new name.
>
> All I am saying is that the "action" here is very very close to
> editing the text in a text object. Replace "label" and "name" with
> "text", and you have the same description. I am not an expert in HCI,
> but "affordance" has more to do with the appearance of things than
> their meaning in a user interface. In that sense, when you have a
> window with a few objects floating in it, each with some text
> associated with it, those objects afford a certain interface. The
> objects could be files in a browser window, or the text objects in a
> diagram, but in either case, their appearance affords the notion of
> "editable when clicked". Like I said already, I am no HCI expert, and
> someone with a background in usability could say more on this.
>
> Anyway, at the end of the day, it boils down to what is comfortable to
> the users. We can always experiment in the pre versions until
> something comfortable emerges.
>
> Sameer.
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