On Thu, 26 Jun 2003, Alexis MARTINI wrote:Yes, I will trie to sand you wat I have made under an other system, with macros!
Luc Pionchon wrote:
Yes, it is this last deffinition!On Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:03:14 +0100 (BST) Alan Horkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Tue, 24 Jun 2003, Alexis MARTINI wrote:*this* is the "cartridge" ;)
Great, thank you for the generous offer.Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2003 23:50:47 +0200 From: Alexis MARTINI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Grafcet and other improvement
Hello, I am very interesting in using DIA in business. In fact I am an ingenieur in automation and so I used a lot GRAFCET, LADDER and SADT. If you need more knowledg on this ask me.
I am not sure what you mean by cartridge?But to use it in business, DIA must have some fue improvement, the first, and for me the more important: a cartridge surounding the différent pages, with some information which could be configured by user, and automated
- description, same for all pages
I have in mind to add a Properties Dialog where you would be able to set things like Description, Subject, Author, Creation Date.
(a straight translation from Technical French "cartouche") une cartouche = cartridge UN cartouche = ??? (I do not know neither) = The box that you draw on each diagram/sketch/plan/drawing, with company logo, signature, author, date, ... depending of the standard of the company.
Oups I am demasked as French people ....
Ach, ze French...:)
I see what it is you want. It wouldn't be too hard to have a 'template page' behind every page printed, but Dia has little idea of page numbers. In fact the split into pages is more of a printing hack than something closely tied to the diagram itself, and it'd require a fair amount of hacking to get page numbers accessible.
I didn't mind about this unprinted line, bute ligne who will suroundThese could probably be covered by extra property pairs (name, value) added by the user.
There are already lines on the Graph indicating the page edges.I thing it is good to don't see the cartridge all the time, to have it just before printing, in prevue. So it wont split the drawing when making it .
the printed page, just like in technical drawing.
This is tru for other DIAgrams, like electrical for exemple.
You're saying you want some surrounding box-thing? Can you point us to an example of this?
Yes, we work with this. It's probably comes from hold methode of drawing electrical, some space in pages was inserted to be used next. But the page number could be static, as it could be cunted with space. I will see if I can perform som exemple.
A remarque about this: when repering a cail or a contactor on an electrical diagrams, the referance take a symbole for the element (C or K for contactor, B for detector, D for Dejonctor for exemple) plus the page number and a number which represente the number of the element in the page. For example K100-1 : Kontactor 1 in page 100 D201 : Dijoncteur 1 in page 100 ...
Can you do something?
At the moment, this is way beyond Dia. With no page numbers available, and no way to indicate them even if they were, we can't do this. (La)TeX would be able to do this easily, but it's a very different system. I have hopes of more interaction with (La)TeX, but in a different (pageless) way.
That kind of naming seems rather fragile, tool. Doesn't that mean that if
an extra page is inserted, all references to the elements are wrong? But
if that's what you're working with...
Alexis
-Lars
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