thanx for the valuable thoughts. I'll keep you posted. thanx again.
On 26 April 2012 14:27, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolli...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 26 April 2012 12:51, Roshan Hewapathirana > <roshanhewapathir...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Bob, > > Yes, this I guess, easier in case of working with health staff. > > For eg. a scenario where all the basic data elements with categories and > > indicators with categories are created in a spreadsheet and imported to > > DHIS2 to create a essential data/indicator set and a data/indicator > > dictionary. Flexibility should come on top of the essential set. > > > > I was studying different indicator frameworks and indicator dictionaries > and > > try to draw some use cases on this. Initially I was thinking of a XML > but as > > you suggested, spreadsheet is more comfortable to health domain. > > I'm thinking spreadsheet as an authoring tool rather than necessarily > as a format. It is the "authoring" of large numbers of repetitive > dataelements which is problematic and which might be reasonably solved > with a well designed spreadsheet template. Spreadsheet data is easily > exported as XML which in turn is easily importable to dhis. > > > > > Other thing I noticed is, currently we create dataelements and then > > indicators (and THEN try to rationalize and to remove unused > dataelements). > > Ideally it should be the other way, to decide indicators first and then > to > > formulate dataelements (this of course better suite to new health > > programmes, rather than old programmes, where there is a list of > > dataelements and indicators used for many years). However, a spreadsheet > > seems to overcome what 'chicken or the egg' problem. > > > > What it your suggestion to handle 'calculated dataelements' with the > > speadsheet approach? > > Calculated dataelements is another difficult discussion. For the > moment they must be handled in the same way as indicators. Though if > you were designing the spreadsheet you might consider creating > separate worksheets for dataelements, calculated dataelements and > indicators. Even though the latter two would end up being implemented > similarly in DHIS2. > > > Roshan > > > > > > > > On 26 April 2012 13:17, Bob Jolliffe <bobjolli...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >> I suspect the route of just having a spreadsheet template for defining > >> these things and just importing off that might be easiest. > >> > >> On 26 April 2012 11:38, Johan Sæbø <joha...@ifi.uio.no> wrote: > >> > On 26.04.2012 12:21, Ola Hodne Titlestad wrote: > >> >> > >> >> I have mentioned this to the developers from time to time and not > given > >> >> up yet... > >> >> > >> >> Both object "cloning" and batch edits are one my wish list for a more > >> >> admin-friendly DHIS 2..... > >> > > >> > > >> > Yes, that would be great! I'm just now defining DEs from a very > regular > >> > pattern: > >> > > >> > "disease name" lab-confirmed, catcombo age+gender > >> > "disease name" suspected, default catcombo > >> > "disease name" epi-linked, default catcombo > >> > > >> > etc.., with 40-50 diseases > >> > > >> > Would be great to just clone earlier ones, and change the disease > names. > >> > More complex though, but with even greater savings, would be some kind > >> > of > >> > pattern definition (batch edits is perhaps the same). > >> > > >> > I'm crossing my fingers for this one! > >> > Johan > >> > > >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ---------------------------------- > >> >> Ola Hodne Titlestad (Mr) > >> >> HISP > >> >> Department of Informatics > >> >> University of Oslo > >> >> > >> >> Mobile: +47 48069736 > >> >> Home address: Vetlandsvn. 95B, 0685 Oslo, Norway. Googlemaps link > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> < > http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Vetlandsvn.+95B,+0685+Oslo,+Norway > > > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 26 April 2012 12:08, Ime Asangansi <asanga...@yahoo.com > >> >> <mailto:asanga...@yahoo.com>> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Thanks Roshan, > >> >> > >> >> Yes, looks like Ola's blueprint has been there since 2009 so its > >> >> probably not that important. Its really easy doing from > >> >> the back-end though, good to know for those moving from 1.4 > >> >> > >> >> Ime > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> --- On *Thu, 4/26/12, Roshan Hewapathirana > >> >> /<roshanhewapathir...@gmail.com > >> >> > >> >> <mailto:roshanhewapathir...@gmail.com>>/* wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> From: Roshan Hewapathirana <roshanhewapathir...@gmail.com > >> >> <mailto:roshanhewapathir...@gmail.com>> > >> >> > >> >> Subject: Re: [Dhis2-devs] what do you guys think of a > duplicate > >> >> function > >> >> To: "Ime Asangansi" <asanga...@yahoo.com > >> >> <mailto:asanga...@yahoo.com>> > >> >> Cc: dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net > >> >> <mailto:dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net> > >> >> > >> >> Date: Thursday, April 26, 2012, 10:37 AM > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Hi Ime, > >> >> I think it is a useful function (even though it might not be > >> >> used frequently). > >> >> > >> >> Ola has submitted this blue print on Data Elements, > >> >> > >> >> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/dhis2/+spec/data-element-cloning > >> >> > >> >> I was wondering whether it is worth submitting a similar blue > >> >> print for Indicators too. > >> >> For Indicators, 'Replicate' function is there in DHIS1.4, > which > >> >> basically allow you to create an Indicator by different names, > >> >> with more or less similar numerators, denominators and > Indicator > >> >> types. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Roshan > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> On 25 April 2012 22:24, Ime Asangansi <asanga...@yahoo.com > >> >> <http://mc/compose?to=asanga...@yahoo.com>> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> Just a thought about making creating data elements, > >> >> indicators, categories, etc faster. > >> >> Would it be cool to have a new 'create xxx' form that is > >> >> auto-filled when we hit duplicate on an existing > >> >> element/orgunit/category etc > >> >> > >> >> Just for convenience, especially when one wants to create > a > >> >> hundred things with just a small difference btw. > >> >> > >> >> (As a fall back I'm having to do it with csv and loading > up > >> >> at the backend, cos its just faster to make so many from a > >> >> sheet than from the interface) > >> >> > >> >> Just a quick thot... > >> >> > >> >> Ime > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs > >> >> <https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-devs> > >> >> Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net > >> >> <http://mc/compose?to=dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net> > >> >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs > >> >> <https://launchpad.net/%7Edhis2-devs> > >> >> > >> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs > >> >> Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net > >> >> <mailto:dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net> > >> >> > >> >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs > >> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> _______________________________________________ > >> >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs > >> >> Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net > >> >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs > >> >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs > >> > Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net > >> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs > >> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs > >> Post to : dhis2-devs@lists.launchpad.net > >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~dhis2-devs > >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > >
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