On 8/11/22 02:08 PM, Steven A. Falco wrote:
On 8/9/22 08:42 PM, Steven A. Falco wrote:
On 8/9/22 07:32 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
On 8/9/22 7:27 PM, Steven A. Falco wrote:
On 8/9/22 06:42 PM, 'Ian McInerney' via KiCad Developers wrote:
On Tue, Aug 9, 2022 at 8:50 PM Wayne Stambaugh <stambau...@gmail.com
<mailto:stambau...@gmail.com>> wrote:
On 8/9/2022 3:13 PM, Steven A. Falco wrote:
> On 8/9/22 03:08 PM, Wayne Stambaugh wrote:
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>>
>> On 8/9/2022 2:37 PM, Steven A. Falco wrote:
>>> For those who don't follow the Fedora development list, i.e. most
>>> everyone :-), I've attached two emails related to wxWidgets and
>>> wxPython. It looks like we will soon have wxWidgets/wxPython 3.2.0
>>> in Rawhide.
>>>
>>> This change won't apply to the older Fedora releases, so if we want
>>> to keep the nightlies available for Fedora 35 and 36 (and I hope we
>>> can), that will mean that we cannot completely eliminate the older wx
>>> support from KiCad until F36 goes obsolete, some time around
>>> mid-2023. But at least the Rawhide builds can switch soon.
>>>
>>> Please let me know if that makes sense, or if there is a need to drop
>>> wxWidgets/wxPython 3.0 sooner.
>>
>> wxWidgets/wxPython 3.2.0 are not even in Debian unstable yet so I
>> wouldn't worry about dropping 3.0 any time soon.
>
> Thanks, Wayne. I wanted to ask because Ian created an issue asking
> Fedora to switch, so I wasn't sure how hot this was. I'll add it as it
> becomes available in the various Fedora releases.
>
> https://gitlab.com/kicad/packaging/kicad-fedora-builder/-/issues/43
<https://gitlab.com/kicad/packaging/kicad-fedora-builder/-/issues/43>
For older versions of KiCad, it might be prudent to stick with what we
know versus what we don't know. I know 3.2 resolves some issues but
it's those unknown issues that I would like to avoid until version 7 is
released.
The Flatpak has been running the wx 3.1 branch since v6 was released, and so
far there have been no issues. We already have Windows and macOS running the
3.1 versions, so I don't see why we need to hold the Linux builds back.
Fair enough but what is the percentage of users using Flatpaks versus native
builds? Do we have adequate testing to make this call? I have no idea.
That's good, because there was a wrinkle I was not aware of. According to the
Fedora wx maintainer:
"while wxWidgets versions are parallel installable, wxPython versions are not. So,
once I update to wxPython 4.2.0 (which links with wxWidgets 3.2.0), wxPython 4.0.7 will
be gone."
Ughh. If that is true, then we will have no choice.
You are right to be concerned Wayne, but we should also keep in mind that none
of this will affect Fedora 35 / 36, which are what I'd expect people to be
running who are using KiCad in production. Rawhide is where new stuff gets
tested - it is not intended for production use.
To be clear, F35/F36 will not get the new wx versions and will therefore remain
unaffected.
I relayed your info to him, and told him to go ahead with wxWidgets 3.2.0 and
wxPython 4.2.0, since we cannot hold him up until KiCad 7 becomes available
towards the end of the year. Hopefully there won't be any issues, but if there
are I'll yell for help. :-)
And sadly, there are issues. I created
https://gitlab.com/kicad/code/kicad/-/issues/12217 to document this.
It appears to be a very fundamental problem, where I cannot even copy the version info
from the about box without getting a crash upon clicking "Ok". Also, just
opening the footprint editor results in a crash.
I've uploaded gdb logs to the issue. Please let me know what other info I can
provide.
Ian proposed a workaround and that indeed fixes the crash. Details are in the
issue.
Thanks Ian, for the speedy analysis and workaround.
Steve
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