On 2025-01-29 16:19, James Browning via devel wrote:
> Dropping 2.7 as well could allow for the removal of ntp.poly& stuff.
This, to me, is the major pro. How big that pro is is debatable. On the
other hand, as time passes, the usefulness of Python 2 gets less and less.
On 2025-01-29 17:53, Fred Wright via devel wrote:
But ntpsec provides Python code for *users* to use with it, and needs to
support whatever version *users* want or need to use, including Python2
code that hasn't been updated to work with Python 3. Even if a distro
comes without Python 2, it's a near certainty that Python 2 is available
as a package, so distro contents is a poor criterion.
Who are the actual consumers of the ntpsec Python code?
I think the only users of the ntpsec Python code are the ntpsec
utilities (written in Python) themselves. I don't think there are
external users of the "ntp" module to any significant degree (if at all).
If that's the case, then we are in Fred's "it would be just a matter of
supporting at least one Python version available on any platform of
interest."
Are there platforms (still worth supporting) that have Python 2 but not
Python 3 out of the box?
For a while, the answer was yes. But things like RHEL/CentOS 7 are out
of support now. And I don't think an upstream project like NTPsec needs
to / should go out of its way to continue supporting distro versions
that are not receiving security updates from the distro itself.
At this point, Python 2 itself is 5 years past its official end of
support. It's time to let it die _here_. There might be value in some
banking system keeping Python 2 going for their in house code or
whatever. But here, we are talking about whether NTPsec upstream needs
to keep supporting Python 2. If $large_bank needs to keep Python 2 going
for their code, nothing is stopping them from installing Python 3 as
well, and using that for the ntpq utility.
Here is my suggested path forward:
1. Drop support for Python 2.6. There seems to be no objection to that.
2. Update waf, if possible.
3. Cut a release. In the release notes, indicate that we intend for this
to be the last release supporting Python 2.
4. Drop support for Python 2 from master.
--
Richard
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